NYC Knife Laws

Also, some items you legally carry, can become an illegal weapon if used as such. As an example, carry an umbrella and use it to bludgeon someone, the illegal weapon charge might get added. Anyway, New York City has laws for the elite and laws for the commoners. The elites pass the laws to protect themselves from the dangerous throngs of common people. The average person is not allowed to have the ability defend themselves because it looks like a threat to the elite.
 
Spyderco spy dk or viper Dan 2, and don't clip to pocket, keep inside pocket or in waistband. Never say it's for self defense or protection. It's a "utility knife" and don't look like a hoodlum if your found with a knife. If you break the law and have a knife on you... Your F***ed. Best case they take it away. I live in Nyc and carry a knife every single day, and not necessarily an Nyc legal knife. Keep it out of sight, including the pocket clip, and you should be fine. Any knife that can be flicked opened is an arrestible offense, but will most likely be dropped in court, unless of course you are carrying an auto, balisong or something that looks menacing


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That's not the whole story. The knife has to LOCK open to be considered an illegal "gravity knife". A non-locking folder that flips open is legal as long as the blade is under 4 inches. A locking folder that can't be flipped open is also legal.
And you can never assume that a "gravity knife" charge will be dropped in court. In NYC people have been convicted and sent to prison for possession of locking, folding utility knives just because these knives were legally "gravity knives" under NY law.
 
Also, some items you legally carry, can become an illegal weapon if used as such. As an example, carry an umbrella and use it to bludgeon someone, the illegal weapon charge might get added. Anyway, New York City has laws for the elite and laws for the commoners. The elites pass the laws to protect themselves from the dangerous throngs of common people. The average person is not allowed to have the ability defend themselves because it looks like a threat to the elite.

Not exactly. If you used it lawfully in self-defense you will not be charged. If you were the aggressor, then yes of course you will be charged with criminal possession of a weapon.
 
Not exactly. If you used it lawfully in self-defense you will not be charged. If you were the aggressor, then yes of course you will be charged with criminal possession of a weapon.

It should be noted that the definition in both statute and in case law of what constitutes "lawful self defense" is much more limited in NY than almost every other state. To the best of my recollection (someone check this), NY is the only state in which one has a duty to retreat even in their own home, at least to an extent to which you could escape from danger.
 
Interesting. I came here to research and ask about laws in other countries because I've traveled extensively and for years have always had something with me, at least my little (old 1st generation) Delica. Seems that may not have always been kosher, depending on where I was.

Anyway, back on topic... Take this for what it is... I lived in NYC for many years (W.Village), still have my apartment and travel to NYC several times a month for work. When I go to work I'm usually wearing a suit. The most casual I'll ever be is if I'm going in on a weekend or know I'll be working late I may wear slacks, button down shirt and a blazer/sport coat... also maybe on Friday's in the summer --or on occasion I'll take my tie off and travel home in a suit with no tie.

Up until I lost it a few days ago, I carried/carry a knife with me every day, everywhere for the last 25+ years. Inside the subway stations the NYCPD will often have a table setup where they do random bag checks/inspections. It is somewhat an unwritten rule that during commuting hours if you are not late for work people will often volunteer to be searched so they don't stop and ask someone who's already running late. I had and still have zero issues carrying --but there's a caveat to that. #1 I'm usually wearing a suit or dressed professionally, #2, if stopped I can say I live there (have a NYC address on my current driver's license) which honestly makes a big difference... If you are a tourist why the heck would you need a "utility tool/knife" in NYC... #3 the knife I carried was small, old and well used (meaning could easily pass as a utility tool), #4 it was never displayed, always either in my pants pocket, clipped inside my briefcase or clipped/in my inside breast pocket of my suit jacket.

Other caveats (for my situation) included me usually carrying more than one knife, my Spyderco and usually a SAK with many tools (like flat & Philips screwdrivers) or a Gerber/Leatherman (which were always stored in my briefcase or elsewhere but not on my person). And, I work in the finance space but do a lot of IT stuff. I'm forever buying nerdy computer things like hard drives or server parts --and I install those parts as well as do my own shipping & receiving. As such I keep a small set of screwdrivers and some other stuff (needle nose pliers, tweezers, etc.) my briefcase/bag (Timbuk2 bag). I've been harassed on several occasions (and have a couple NYC PBA cards in my wallet) but never once had to use/pull the cards, gotten a ticket, had anything confiscated, etc. Couple other caveats are that I sailed in the city at least one night a week and always try to if I'm back there on the right days. I also keep a Vespa in the city and always had/have tools/crap in the glovebox, etc. Between all of what I had going on, every time I was ever asked (unlawfully harassed) I always had/have a good and valid reason for having a pocket knife in my pocket.

I think it all comes down to using your head and asking yourself why you are carrying a knife in the first place. If you are a tourist you probably don't have much of a reason to be carrying a knife. Maybe, but probably not. Most NYC residents go out of their way to mind their own business, stay under the radar and avoid drama as much as possible. If you have a flashy Rambo knife clipped to your belt or hanging out of your pocket it'll draw unwanted attention. Most that live in NYC wouldn't do that in the first place. If you get stopped or harassed then perhaps ask yourself why you were stopped in the first place. If you volunteer to a bag check the answer is easy: its a tool, just as legal as carrying a screwdriver or box cutter... and why would I have ever volunteered to an inspection/check if I knew it was a problem...

TL;DR: Probably the best rule of thumb is "if you have to ask you probably shouldn't do it".
 
An excerpt from the above link:

"It has been found that folding knives with a blade of four (4) inches or more that locks in an open position are designed and used almost exclusively for the purpose of stabbing or the threat thereof. Therefore for the safety of the city, such weapons should be prohibited from sale within the jurisdiction of the city of New York."
 
I see the quote you posted from the law I posted the link to. I did state sale is prohibited, but carry is allowed sometimes, and the fact they lock only comes into play for sale, unless they can flick open. What were you high lighting with your excerpt that I did not say?
 
NYC? Just become one with the collective, they'll ignore you until they consider you a threat.

Here's an example of appropriate attire.
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just spent 4 days walking the streets of manhattan with a knife clip very visible on my pants pocket. i hit up all of the major attractions, and even spent a bit of time engaging in conversation with some of the heavily armed police camping out around trump tower.

not saying you can't get in trouble, or that i wasn't exceedingly lucky, just sharing an experience.
 
You were very lucky!!!! The officers assigned to the Subway system go after knife arrests the most, but all do to some extent. The fact you just did this near the end of the month makes it even more amazing.....These arrests tend to increase the last days of the month as numbers are so important....
 
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That's not the whole story. The knife has to LOCK open to be considered an illegal "gravity knife". A non-locking folder that flips open is legal as long as the blade is under 4 inches. A locking folder that can't be flipped open is also legal.
And you can never assume that a "gravity knife" charge will be dropped in court. In NYC people have been convicted and sent to prison for possession of locking, folding utility knives just because these knives were legally "gravity knives" under NY law.

You actually have to make it to court for that to matter. You'll still be held in central booking until your first court date, and it's always a gamble if the judge you draw is willing to accept that the knife wasn't a locking model, and is willing to believe you over the arresting officer.
 
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