Oct. Blade-Besh Wedge?

David Stifle

David Stifle

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Hey Guys,

The article in Blade describes the "Besh Wedge" as two diagonally opposed bevels that converge to form a third cutting edge." It is supposed to result in a stronger tip less likely to break. It is being incorporated into factory knives at a breakneck pace. Buck, SOG, Ka-Bar are all hopping on the bandwagon.

I'm fairly amused. From what I can see from the pictures, it's simply a topclip swedge, although I could be wrong. Anyone else know anything about the Besh Wedge?

Dave
 
designed by Brent Beshara, a cool dude. It's different for sure, not your standard grind but it doesn't look at all hocus pocus.
 
It occured to me to try something like that quite a long time ago, but didn't see the utility in it, the Dude has good marketing...

picture a dagger grind, but skip grinding two opposing edges,

2 bevels instead of the dagger's 4, then grind them farther so the bevels go over the centre line
 
But you still have the same amount of steel in the tip, regardless of how it is ground. I wonder that type of tests they did to convince all these companies that the tip is stronger? Stab it into a log one thousand times? LOL Personally, I don't like the look of it, I think it ruins the look of the blade. But that's just my take.

Is this simply another fad, or is it here to stay. I guess the buyers will decide with their pocketbook.

Dave
 
good marketing lotta hype, I wouldn't want any of the knives being produced with it for anything other than a crowbar, and a crowbar is better suited to crowbar duty. It's hype, just like all of the "combat" knives made up of multiple prismatic grinds that everyone was buying 5 years ago because they look like a combat helicopter, they were bulky, worked well as a crowbar, and didn't cut well. Most of the guys in the military that I know got one at one time or another and replaced it with something more functional once the novelty wore off, I imagine the "Besh Wedge" will have a similar hype cycle, then be relegated to the same junk drawer as Rambo knives and disco records

-Page
 
David Stifle said:
But you still have the same amount of steel in the tip, regardless of how it is ground. I wonder that type of tests they did to convince all these companies that the tip is stronger? Stab it into a log one thousand times? LOL Personally, I don't like the look of it, I think it ruins the look of the blade. But that's just my take.

Is this simply another fad, or is it here to stay. I guess the buyers will decide with their pocketbook.

Dave
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if you look at it end on (I went to Besh's website) it looks like a flathead screwdriver formed by two intersecting chisel grind edges made out of very thick steel, kind of a lazy man's way to make a double-edged blade

-Page
 
Well here it is:

http://www.beshknives.com/

I am sorry but I am not impressesd now that I know what all the hype is about! :eek: :thumbdn:

I prefer an edge that cuts not a swedge or an ice pick. If I want to let the air out of something that might me ok! :eek:
 
Do you guys know what an armor piercing point is- it's a grind that leaves extra steel in the tip. Hard to describe but it's a nice looking grind and one that is both sharp and good looking. I prefer a modified grind like that to the wedge. But I wish the guy well. It will be interesting to see how these knives sell.

Dave
 
I think that Beshwedge looks pretty cool, kinda wish I'd done it myself! It also looks pretty impractical, but that's it's selling point!
 
Brent is a friend, I have held the very first wooden prototype of the Besh Wedge. I have one. For what they were designed to do, they are the best out there, IMO. The look is very unconventional and is hard to accept at first... but use it for it's inteneded purpose (penetration) and I'm sure you will be impressed. The tip, with out a doubt, is the strongest I have seen in a double edged blade. It should be compared to the FS dagger, Gerber MKII and any other of those types. That's what it was designed to do. I think its great that the Besh Wedge is carrying over to other designs as well, but agree that it is a specialized feature and perhaps not appropriate for some folk's taste.

Brent is not a man who "hypes". Perhaps the companies who carry this geometry are strongly promoting it.... that should not reflect on Brent.

BTW... Blackhawk's version of the Wedge is a bastardized look-alike, IMO. They introduced a secondary bevel that really limits the performance of the tool. Brent's original 0-grind is the only way to go.

Rick
 
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I think it's an very interesting concept. Not too attractive to look at, but I can't say any more than that until the unlikely event that I got to play with one.

- Chris
 
David Stifle said:
I'm fairly amused. From what I can see from the pictures, it's simply a topclip swedge, although I could be wrong. Anyone else know anything about the Besh Wedge?
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The geometry is unique. You either have to see it or make it to really get it in your head. It's a single chisel grind on the same side of the opposite faces of the blade...... (not sure what the hell I just babbled there) The tip ends up with a screwdriver like appearence on a 45 deg angle (depending on blade thickness.

Or as Brent says, "A revolutionary knife grind composed of diagonally opposing bevels converging to create a third cutting edge."

If you can stomach the soundtrack, here's the Blackhawk vid...
[youtube]YTScmBlHUkw[/youtube]
 
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