Of Rivets and Stag

I was told a few years ago that the rivets on the customs are non-functional--just decorative.

Scales are glued.

That could have changed, I don't know.
 
Buck_110 said:
Is this method of scale attachment currently used if rivets are not opted for? If so, what year did inner frame screws replace adhesive? I collect only pre-1999 110s, and the newest ones I have sport rivets. My newest 110s without rivets do in fact utilize adhesive; which I favor over the method above. I want to order a ram horn scaled 110 without rivets, but only if adhesive is used. If the scales are going to be held in place merely by threaded nubs, I will then opt for rivets.
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That is the way it APPEARED to me, Buck_110 . If you want the definitive answer, why not call Randy at Buck Knives and ask? He handles the custom shop orders. I'd be interested in hearing his reply.
 
Custom shop rivets are functional ,there is no need for glue with rivets,but they glue the ones with rivets trhe same as the ones without.there ya go.
 
Buck_110 said:
Is this method of scale attachment currently used if rivets are not opted for? If so, what year did inner frame screws replace adhesive? I collect only pre-1999 110s, and the newest ones I have sport rivets. My newest 110s without rivets do in fact utilize adhesive; which I favor over the method above. I want to order a ram horn scaled 110 without rivets, but only if adhesive is used. If the scales are going to be held in place merely by threaded nubs, I will then opt for rivets.
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Hay guys,

After Buck_110's question I took a look at the last CS knife I ordered. It's a CS 112 NK Rammy, no pins. I looked at the inside and it looks like the back side of a rivet filling the holes, it sure don't look like a screw. However, I did the light trick where you hold the knife up to a light and I can see light coming through at both ends of the scales and a small spot of light coming through at the point where the back of the scale meets the side plate. It sure looks like no glue to me. I'll try to post some photo's. It would be nice if one of the Buck factory guys could give some info on this.




jb4570
 
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I know that you don't know. I am looking for an answer, not your assumptions. Please don't reply. It's as if you post just to post.
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No need to get snippy. I'm trying to help you. I don't say "I KNOW" because there's clearly a lot of wrong information flying here. You'll note that I ended by saying you should call them.

Apparently, that's the best advice you will get.

I suggest you take it.
 
jb4570 said:
Hay guys,

After Buck_110's question I took a look at the last CS knife I ordered. It's a CS 112 NK Rammy, no pins. I looked at the inside and it looks like the back side of a rivet filling the holes, it sure don't look like a screw. However, I did the light trick where you hold the knife up to a light and I can see light coming through at both ends of the scales and a small spot of light coming through at the point where the back of the scale meets the side plate. It sure looks like no glue to me. I'll try to post some photo's. It would be nice if one of the Buck factory guys could give some info on this.
jb4570
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If I recall (I don't now have that knife with me at hand) mine looked like screws embedded from the inside. A CKS 110 Sambar Stag/ S30V made last August. I know in certain kinds of carpentry nails and screws are sometimes used to hold the thing in place until the glue sets. They are not then taken out. There is no light leaking through on my knife. A definitive answer from Randy @ Buck would be interesting.
 
From CJ Buck:

A quick point on rivets...they do provide some "shear" protection against an impact to the inlay which might shatter the glue connection. Porous material like bone not so much as sealed materials like the impregnated birch...On the bad side if shrinkage in the inlay takes place against the anchor of a rivet sometime it will cause a crack.

On just the looks...Rivets could limit your ability of marking on the handle like scrimshaw etc...but sometimes they serve as almost a decoration breaking up a big bland handle
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Search function.
 
Well, maybe you should consider kicking in a little moolah to help fund the site?

;)

Glad to have helped.
 
wolfdog said:
If I recall (I don't now have that knife with me at hand) mine looked like screws embedded from the inside. A CKS 110 Sambar Stag/ S30V made last August. I know in certain kinds of carpentry nails and screws are sometimes used to hold the thing in place until the glue sets. They are not then taken out. There is no light leaking through on my knife. A definitive answer from Randy @ Buck would be interesting.
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I took a second look. Those are definitely screws. :)
 
jb4570 said:
Can you elaborate? What kind of screw?
jb4570
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Again it is not in front of me, jb, but they look like small Phillips flat head screws (like the kind jewelers use) sunk in to frame. They may be torx screws, but it's hard to tell from the angle looking into the frame.
 
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Ya know......I'm lookin' and I can't swear that I can see any phillips or torx indications.

Actually, I'm seeing little holes in the ends and they look round and smooth on the one that I can get a good look at. They correspond exactly to the pins. I get all mine with pins now that I know there are only three pins instead of four.

I like the look of three pins......hate the look of four.

Anyhow, it's hard to tell because it looks like some glue comes through around most of them.....I had to scrape a little off to get a better look.

Sad to say, since I have astigmatism and am both near and far-sighted......these old eyes may have missed something, but I can't say for sure that these are screw-ends I'm seeing inside the knife.

I think both of these knives I looked at were done in '08.

Maybe we should get some other guys to take a look at theirs?

As I said before, I'm sure somebody told me a while back that the pins are only decorative, but that could mean that they (at least at that time) were not solidly attached to the frame but depended on the glue to finalize that matter.
 
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