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My advice is to keep your interest and the fact you are carrying a knife to yourself. Why give someone an opportunity to level criticism at you.... to your face or behind your back.
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Office Knife Carry
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I carry pretty much whatever I feel like at the office...as long as it's a folder, I leave the knives that would actually be illegal to carry concealed at home
This is at a software co in NYC (midtown, where everything is a bit formal).
Coworker of mine found out I was into knives and ordered a couple Hibben throwers along with my recent order. When the knives arrived, the CEO was walking by, saw the knives being unboxed, picked one up and said, "stand back -- stand back! Now which post on that wall do you want me to hit?" (Of course he was only kidding, but it was still cool to see.)
Coworker of mine found out I was into knives and ordered a couple Hibben throwers along with my recent order. When the knives arrived, the CEO was walking by, saw the knives being unboxed, picked one up and said, "stand back -- stand back! Now which post on that wall do you want me to hit?" (Of course he was only kidding, but it was still cool to see.)
I was pretty quiet around my workplace for a long time about knives. But occasionally people needed to borrow a knife which I would loan them or someone in the department would whip out a knife and I would make some comment. One guy whipped out a Gerber Gator and was slicing an apple with it at a committee meeting and cut himself REAL good. At an awards ceremony for students, I gave him a rubber knife award.
Anyway, after awhile, people in the department knew I was a "knife knutt" and surprisingly, no flak. In fact, one of my coworkers showed up in my office one day with an automatic. Another became so interested she bought a Battle Mistress and a Lean Mean Street for her son for Christmas. Now I have people coming to me asking what knife to buy or how do you sharpen a knife, etc (and...do you know anything about handguns...
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So I've been pretty happy with everyone's attitude. All my coworkers are biologists of one sort or another, and biologists tend to be practical (in general) and most of our faculty are "field" oriented and carry SAKs so I guess I'm lucky. I remember when I was a bio major undergrad and I was talking to one of the faculty and the department chair and mentioned something about SAKs, whereupon both the chair and the prof whipped out their SAKs. I pulled mine out and we all laughed. Seems like most field biologists carry an SAK. Even more interesting, I was at a recent professional meeting and one of the top scientists there in my field of study had a leatherman on his hip. He's at the U. Wisconsin and I'm wondering if he carries that around the department. I would love to do that here and maybe eventually...
Still, it's the administration I sometimes worry about. Ya never know what kind of crap will come down from above, so I don't whip out sharp things if I know an administrator is around. That would be pushing my luck. And those departments outside the biology dept. may be highly populated with sheeple so I still have to be careful where I flash sharp thingies. But it's nice to see a growing interest about knives within my department.
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Hoodoo
I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
Anyway, after awhile, people in the department knew I was a "knife knutt" and surprisingly, no flak. In fact, one of my coworkers showed up in my office one day with an automatic. Another became so interested she bought a Battle Mistress and a Lean Mean Street for her son for Christmas. Now I have people coming to me asking what knife to buy or how do you sharpen a knife, etc (and...do you know anything about handguns...
So I've been pretty happy with everyone's attitude. All my coworkers are biologists of one sort or another, and biologists tend to be practical (in general) and most of our faculty are "field" oriented and carry SAKs so I guess I'm lucky. I remember when I was a bio major undergrad and I was talking to one of the faculty and the department chair and mentioned something about SAKs, whereupon both the chair and the prof whipped out their SAKs. I pulled mine out and we all laughed. Seems like most field biologists carry an SAK. Even more interesting, I was at a recent professional meeting and one of the top scientists there in my field of study had a leatherman on his hip. He's at the U. Wisconsin and I'm wondering if he carries that around the department. I would love to do that here and maybe eventually...
Still, it's the administration I sometimes worry about. Ya never know what kind of crap will come down from above, so I don't whip out sharp things if I know an administrator is around. That would be pushing my luck. And those departments outside the biology dept. may be highly populated with sheeple so I still have to be careful where I flash sharp thingies. But it's nice to see a growing interest about knives within my department.
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Hoodoo
I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
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One suggestion would be to carry a pen-knife for defense, and a small Camillus lockback in your pocket for opening parcels etc.
The one in your pocket is only displayed when you are doing legitimate work with it, and the pen-knife sits quietly in the shirt pocket, besides another pen that you write with.
Just hope no one decides to borrow your "pen".
The one in your pocket is only displayed when you are doing legitimate work with it, and the pen-knife sits quietly in the shirt pocket, besides another pen that you write with.
Just hope no one decides to borrow your "pen".
I too work for a consultancy... and luckily
I have another "knife guy" in my department.
The two of us always have at least one full
size folder each, and usually two. Now that
there are two of us, we have taken to using
one full-size folder as a paperweight on our
respective desks, and the result is that all
of our co-workers walk into our offices and
start playing with our knives!
I think it's likely the two of us are going
to convert a goodly chunk of the remaining
department staff to "knut" status, and since
I met employees at another office, I found a
new "knut" who carries the banner there.
Sometimes, offices and knives do mix...
T.
I have another "knife guy" in my department.
The two of us always have at least one full
size folder each, and usually two. Now that
there are two of us, we have taken to using
one full-size folder as a paperweight on our
respective desks, and the result is that all
of our co-workers walk into our offices and
start playing with our knives!
I think it's likely the two of us are going
to convert a goodly chunk of the remaining
department staff to "knut" status, and since
I met employees at another office, I found a
new "knut" who carries the banner there.
Sometimes, offices and knives do mix...
T.
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Try a BM 770, shouldn't scare anyone at all. I use my 940 at the office and no one has mentioned it. Keep the more "serious" blades out of sight.
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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"
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Jason aka medusaoblongata
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"I have often laughed at the weaklings who call themselves kind because they have no claws"
- Zarathustra
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This is always a concern, but I think if your coworkers trust you, you won't have any problems. I have carried everything from an AFCK to a large Apogee to work at different times over the last several years, and though I worried about it at first, I have never actually had a coworker notice. Go figure.
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Received and wore my first 'neck knife' today...at work. I only wore it until lunch, it was much too obvious. We are very casual...jeans and open collars etc. While my situation is not in jeopardy, my 'need' for such a 'weapon' might be questioned. While my knife knut status is known, this might be over the line for some.
Comments..?
Steve-O
Comments..?
Steve-O
There is no reason to let your co-workers know what you may have of your personal life on your person at any given time, regardles of how you may feel your "rights" are being infringed. In a corporate world, the company sets the rules and attitudes and you will likely go further by playing reserved on your own exhuberance regardless of the situation. This is why we do not get drunk at office parties, despite the free booze, neh?
In a profesional field where the dress code is business casual and up, there is no reason whatsoever to advertise the fact that you are carrying any knife larger or more threatening than a swiss army or similar size knife, that no one handed (they are all switchblades and weapons in the office guys, leave your politics out of your paychecks) feature is available and should anyone ask you about the beeper or pen in your pocket, simply tell them it is your "pocketknife" and leave it at that. If they ask to see it, tell them you prefer not to bring it out at the office. The guy in most instances who want to see the knife is the immature blabbermouth who wil spread it around you are carrying a bowie or bayonet in your pocket. The talk behind your back will prevent your growth in the company and maybe the entire industry.
I do not care if you feel it is your right or perogative to bring it out whereever and whenever, your personal felings may not mesh with your corporate culture and that culture may decide heavily if you move up (move up = more money = more knives) or even have a job later that year.
I am currently looking for new employ outside of my small firm and I realize that in addition to my dress becoming likely more formal (and sadly more expensive), my knife of the day will switch from an Endura or similar to a Rookie, or even to the lovely blue bone-handled trapper I bought from a Boker guy. The clip rides less obtrusively in slacks than jeans, but it still tears up the pocket and this is not gonna work out well when presentation makes a big difference.
I do not need to explain my proclivities to anyone, which is why the martial arts/ close combat background of 15 years is not on the resume under "other interests". I simply do not need the headache.
You wanna carry an 11" blade? So do I, but the reality is unfortunately different in most of corporate America. The briefcase is a good place for this or in the coat, but beyond that it is pretty much a fantasy-world, barring many hundred dollars of custom concealment work.
I have also worked the loading dock end of the spectrum and a knife was not only accptable but cool. Everyone wanted an Endura when I introduced it to my coworkers in 1994 (was working McMaster Carr and we sold them.) That job was not what I wanted to do however. A suit knife needs to befit a "suit" and all that connotes. Hope this helps.
In a profesional field where the dress code is business casual and up, there is no reason whatsoever to advertise the fact that you are carrying any knife larger or more threatening than a swiss army or similar size knife, that no one handed (they are all switchblades and weapons in the office guys, leave your politics out of your paychecks) feature is available and should anyone ask you about the beeper or pen in your pocket, simply tell them it is your "pocketknife" and leave it at that. If they ask to see it, tell them you prefer not to bring it out at the office. The guy in most instances who want to see the knife is the immature blabbermouth who wil spread it around you are carrying a bowie or bayonet in your pocket. The talk behind your back will prevent your growth in the company and maybe the entire industry.
I do not care if you feel it is your right or perogative to bring it out whereever and whenever, your personal felings may not mesh with your corporate culture and that culture may decide heavily if you move up (move up = more money = more knives) or even have a job later that year.
I am currently looking for new employ outside of my small firm and I realize that in addition to my dress becoming likely more formal (and sadly more expensive), my knife of the day will switch from an Endura or similar to a Rookie, or even to the lovely blue bone-handled trapper I bought from a Boker guy. The clip rides less obtrusively in slacks than jeans, but it still tears up the pocket and this is not gonna work out well when presentation makes a big difference.
I do not need to explain my proclivities to anyone, which is why the martial arts/ close combat background of 15 years is not on the resume under "other interests". I simply do not need the headache.
You wanna carry an 11" blade? So do I, but the reality is unfortunately different in most of corporate America. The briefcase is a good place for this or in the coat, but beyond that it is pretty much a fantasy-world, barring many hundred dollars of custom concealment work.
I have also worked the loading dock end of the spectrum and a knife was not only accptable but cool. Everyone wanted an Endura when I introduced it to my coworkers in 1994 (was working McMaster Carr and we sold them.) That job was not what I wanted to do however. A suit knife needs to befit a "suit" and all that connotes. Hope this helps.
I have experimented with several knives and modes of carry in the work place.
By paying attention to peoples eyes, and whether they notice the knife when not in use, and listening to their words when I do use the knife, I have concluded that about half the people (mostly female) do not tolerate any knife other than a Leatherman.
They may not do or say anything direct at the time, but they store it away.
Knowing office politics as I do, I do not expect comments about my knife possession or use to come out at a time favorable to me.
Therefore, I carry my "real" knife completely concealed.
I use my Leatherman only after I consider the people around at the time and the possibility of creating negative politics.
In some groups, I will "forget" that I have a knife and rummage around for a pair of scissors.
Please do not think of me as a person lacking moral courage.
I try to choose my battles and waving my puny little Spyderco Native in the face of a known female hoplophobe does not seem profitable in the workplace.
I live in rural Oregon, and I cannot imagine a place more open to knives in the workplace.
I think we have a national cultural problem, in which half of the people, mostly women, have an unreasonable and unconscious fear of weapons.
We need to change the culture, first, and then carry openly.
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Luke 22:36, John 18:6-11, Freedom
If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.
By paying attention to peoples eyes, and whether they notice the knife when not in use, and listening to their words when I do use the knife, I have concluded that about half the people (mostly female) do not tolerate any knife other than a Leatherman.
They may not do or say anything direct at the time, but they store it away.
Knowing office politics as I do, I do not expect comments about my knife possession or use to come out at a time favorable to me.
Therefore, I carry my "real" knife completely concealed.
I use my Leatherman only after I consider the people around at the time and the possibility of creating negative politics.
In some groups, I will "forget" that I have a knife and rummage around for a pair of scissors.
Please do not think of me as a person lacking moral courage.
I try to choose my battles and waving my puny little Spyderco Native in the face of a known female hoplophobe does not seem profitable in the workplace.
I live in rural Oregon, and I cannot imagine a place more open to knives in the workplace.
I think we have a national cultural problem, in which half of the people, mostly women, have an unreasonable and unconscious fear of weapons.
We need to change the culture, first, and then carry openly.
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Luke 22:36, John 18:6-11, Freedom
If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.
Double Edge Dave
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I have good luck using an in-the-pocket knife holder from Magill's. It sits like a gun ITP holder with an open top. It is all leather with a leather flap that extends back to the back part of the pocket. I like it because it holds the knife upright in the pocket and doesn't allow other contents, such as coin and keys to scratch the knife up. It is still super easy to draw. the flap also breaks up the outline of the knife and so it doesn't "print" in dress pants pockets.
I carry an AFCK that way often. It will work with most med-large folders, except ones that have substantial protrusions such as the Emmie Commander, Carson M-16 or the Boa.
It works great! Check it out at www.magills.com
David
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I carry an AFCK that way often. It will work with most med-large folders, except ones that have substantial protrusions such as the Emmie Commander, Carson M-16 or the Boa.
It works great! Check it out at www.magills.com
David
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NC Custom Knifemakers Guild member
NC Knife Knuts member
Be careful. I'd keep my knife carrying to myself.
Many large firms (including mine), have broad, poorly defined policies against employees bringing any "weapon or dangerous instrument" to work. Is a pentel rolling ball pen a dangerous instrument? Is a screwdriver???
The dopes think that this will "reduce workplace violence". Like homicidal maniacs will obey the office policy.
AlGore voters are particularly "sensitive" to knives and talk about violence (forget firearms they hyper-ventilate). BTW the policy in my shop prohibits talking about violence.
They don't realize there are no dangerous instruments, only dangerous people.
In summation, I wouldn't use the clip on my pocket knife, avoid the issue. Take care.
Many large firms (including mine), have broad, poorly defined policies against employees bringing any "weapon or dangerous instrument" to work. Is a pentel rolling ball pen a dangerous instrument? Is a screwdriver???
The dopes think that this will "reduce workplace violence". Like homicidal maniacs will obey the office policy.
AlGore voters are particularly "sensitive" to knives and talk about violence (forget firearms they hyper-ventilate). BTW the policy in my shop prohibits talking about violence.
They don't realize there are no dangerous instruments, only dangerous people.
In summation, I wouldn't use the clip on my pocket knife, avoid the issue. Take care.
After 10 minutes of searching...here's the direct link: http://www.gunvideo.com/magills.com/HTML/MG_ITEMS/T0037.HTM
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I carry a Spydie Walker l/w or calypso jnr in my suit wearing office everyday.I make no show of them,but will openly use them to open packages,cut food etc-so far no adverse comments,but I guess you never know what people are thinking.Sub 3 inch seems pretty low profile to me though.
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My suggestion is to carry two knives.
I work in a manufacturing environment in the QA dept. So I am both in the office and the shop all day. The people are pretty laid back, but still there are certain Sheeple that you know will balk at a "tactical" folder. My solution: I carry an Emerson Waved-CQC7B clipped in my right front pocket and use it only in the shop with no management pukes around. When in the office or if there are mgmt types on the floor, that's when I use my AG Russel reverse congress folder, usually utilizing the 1.5" Warncliffe blade. Therefore no pansy-ass liberals will feel threatened, but out on the shop, the CQC7B does nothing but draw looks of envy
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Not once have I been asked about the clip on my pocket.
You know, it's funny how these sheeple get offended about you carrying a knife until the situation arises where it would save their ass like if you needed to cut clothing away on an accident/heart attack victim, or if some psycho disgruntled employee comes to the office to blow everyone away and a tactical folder you're carrying saves the day. Hey, it could happen. I bet they'd be singing a different tune then.
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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Wave-aholic
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
I work in a manufacturing environment in the QA dept. So I am both in the office and the shop all day. The people are pretty laid back, but still there are certain Sheeple that you know will balk at a "tactical" folder. My solution: I carry an Emerson Waved-CQC7B clipped in my right front pocket and use it only in the shop with no management pukes around. When in the office or if there are mgmt types on the floor, that's when I use my AG Russel reverse congress folder, usually utilizing the 1.5" Warncliffe blade. Therefore no pansy-ass liberals will feel threatened, but out on the shop, the CQC7B does nothing but draw looks of envy
Not once have I been asked about the clip on my pocket.
You know, it's funny how these sheeple get offended about you carrying a knife until the situation arises where it would save their ass like if you needed to cut clothing away on an accident/heart attack victim, or if some psycho disgruntled employee comes to the office to blow everyone away and a tactical folder you're carrying saves the day. Hey, it could happen. I bet they'd be singing a different tune then.
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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Wave-aholic
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
Thanks for the Magill's link.
The pocket sheath looks like a good idea.
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Luke 22:36, John 18:6-11, Freedom
If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.
The pocket sheath looks like a good idea.
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Luke 22:36, John 18:6-11, Freedom
If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.