OK, so I lied......

mistwalker said:
Yep, now leave all your money at home except for $30.00, pic one...yes just one and at least yours will be a RAT/ESEE... knife, get dropped off in the center of the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex with only that and the clothes on your back, and survive for three and a half years straight until you become an adult without getting caught by the authorities or killed by gangs that you just can't help but mock for their cowardice and stupidity (hey I was 15, *shrugs*), stealing and bartering for your food and finding your built shelter. then come tell me how easy it is :D
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*story?* :eek: :p :D:D
 
texastonydobbs said:
Urban is kinda to easy...yes you have to plan things out and think ahead but your shelter is built , food is canned and you just hafta barter or steal these items.
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Not so much in my opinion. You may need to leave your dwelling for a lot of reasons and any obviously inhabitle place other people will like the looks of too. Moving from one place to another in a post SHTF scenario in an urban environment most likely won't be like walking down the street any other day. Once the majority of people start to freak out and realize that they are completely unprepared, some guy moving around confidently that looks like he has a lot useful gear might become a big target. Bartering will most likely be a big part of it. "Borrowing" some things might be an option the issue there is getting to it before someone else and not being shot in the process.
 
I know just how you feel Shotty, I always find myself being pulled back into the wilderness when I try and stray over to the urban aspect. I was born and live in a small farm town so the need for a ton of urban survival items won't do me much good. Other than some things I keep in my truck should I end up in a large city if the SHTF, I'm always drawn back to the wilderness.
 
R.A.T. said:
Urban survival to me consists of a bar that has Corona
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You poor man. Corona is just Spanish for Milwaukee's Best Lite Ice, you know......

I spend almost ALL my time in the urban environs.....Chicago and burbs, so we're not supposed to carry firearms. Or knives. Or any sort of personal protection implement. In a city which had that I am aware of 6 murders and close to 30 shootings last night.

Urban survival is a reality here depending on where you are and what business you are in.

By now, there's a vid on YouTube which was shot last night in Englewood, a genuinely shitty neighborhood on Chicago's south side. 6 dead, a whole pile wounded. The south side of that city is turning into a re-militarized zone.

I'm a "hair" under the influence at the moment, but I'd love to delve further into the concepts of urban E&E, "being the gray man," a tough one if you do not fit the demographics in this burg, a BOB for all occasions concrete, etc.

Just as a sort of teaser, in 2008 I did the Appleseed shoot in Ottawa IL, about 90 min west of the house. I got home late on Sat, tired as hell, worn out, sore. I ate dinner with the wife, and fell asleep with a glas of red wine in hand, and woke up with it in hand as well, with the 10pm news on.

Between Friday of that weekend (April 18-20 2008) and the following Monday at midnight, there were I recall 55 shootings.

The local all-purpose city spokeswoman/ reassuring white woman with good diction came on the tube. Usually when a city with 8 million residents pics a spokesperson, that person is smooth, urbane, educated and can handle anything. This gal is all that. Her name is Monique Bond.

I remember her speech was essentially the following: "When it gets warmer we just can't keep the animals in their cages."

The last two days have been 80 degrees, after a long cold winter with a LOT of snow.

So let's do it - let's get all concrete jungle and whatnot. I've got some interesting stories to share, who else?
 
shelbysguns said:
*story?* :eek: :p :D:D
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Well...it's a rather long story but the short version is that when I was 15 my mother was killed. I really didn't have anywhere else to turn at the time so I hiked/hitch-hiked my way back to Dallas from Tennessee looking for some old friends that had been like uncles to me for a few years prior to the...um "event". I never found them and decided that there was as good as any other place....I knew the area, and really didn't feel like hiking back to Tennessee so I stayed. The next nearly four years was a long series of urban survival studies and trying to avoid becoming a ward of the state.
 
urban survival I carry my izula and xd 9mm sub compact, wilderness survival I carry my ESEE 4..........
 
Dizwolf said:
or Knob Creek!
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We're going to KCR this week for the bi-annual machine gun shoot - you planning to go?

Or were you referring to KC Whiskey? If so, I plan to pick up a bottle at the little liquor store right next to the trailer park near the intersection of Hwy 44 and US 31. Good stuff.

And to keep this ESEE-related, I'll be EDC'ing my RC-4.

Al
 
mistwalker said:
Well...it's a rather long story but the short version is that when I was 15 my mother was killed. I really didn't have anywhere else to turn at the time so I hiked/hitch-hiked my way back to Dallas from Tennessee looking for some old friends that had been like uncles to me for a few years prior to the...um "event". I never found them and decided that there was as good as any other place....I knew the area, and really didn't feel like hiking back to Tennessee so I stayed. The next nearly four years was a long series of urban survival studies and trying to avoid becoming a ward of the state.
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Oh, I'm sorry I thought you were like me and liked to just disapear into the woods or city for hours on end sorry!:(
 
shelbysguns said:
Oh, I'm sorry I thought you were like me and liked to just disapear into the woods or city for hours on end sorry!:(
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Hey man...you've done nothing to be sorry for. This December 1st will be the 30th anniversary of the night my stepfather kicked in our back door and opened fire. It sort of screwed with my head for several years afterwards as we had at one time been close... but I came to terms with it and just how screwy life can be a long time ago.

And yes, I do like to just disappear into the city and into the woods for hours on end, I always have. When I was thirteen I used to take off riding my bike in Dallas Friday after school and I'd still be riding...or sitting somewhere miles away... when the sun came up the next day. And until I became a father it was nothing unusual for me to throw on a pack and go on a two week hike when ever a job finished up or work slowed down.
 
mistwalker said:
Hey man...you've done nothing to be sorry for. This December 1st will be the 30th anniversary of the night my stepfather kicked in our back door and opened fire. It sort of screwed with my head for several years afterwards as we had at one time been close... but I came to terms with it and just how screwy life can be a long time ago.

And yes, I do like to just disappear into the city and into the woods for hours on end, I always have. When I was thirteen I used to take off riding my bike in Dallas Friday after school and I'd still be riding...or sitting somewhere miles away... when the sun came up the next day. And until I became a father it was nothing unusual for me to throw on a pack and go on a two week hike when ever a job finished up or work slowed down.
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Yeah, sometimes I don't even know where I'm heading, just wanna be outta the house..... I here alot about that kinda stuff in families from my dad... He has to listen to all the stories at work. ( He's a judge.)
I do have to say I prefer being in the woods though! :thumbup:
 
shelbysguns said:
Yeah, sometimes I don't even know where I'm heading, just wanna be outta the house..... I here alot about that kinda stuff in families from my dad... He has to listen to all the stories at work. ( He's a judge.)
I do have to say I prefer being in the woods though! :thumbup:
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Luckily for me I live in the woods :)
 
Urban survival blows.

Wilderness survival is camping.
Urban survival is being a refugee on a constant E&E mission.

It's funny, I keep seeing more and more former hobos coming out lately. Is it that we see this having to become a lifestyle again?
 
Mist? How old are you? And I don't want to pry, but was curious about your story. Bah, I should stop being curious. Ok. I stop.

If you put a book out, be it kinkos print or a published piece, I will read! I love reading about other people working through their lifes hardships, its inspiring and helps restore faith in other people, that out there? Theres still good decent people making it in the world. Opposed to other kinds of people I keep seeing on the news, murders, rape, etc :(

And yes...the heat is here, so out comes the crazy people :\
 
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