Unfortunately, we probably won't ever get the full story.
As far as retaliation, from my eyes, the intruder was STILL an intruder and could be argued to be a life threat.
I have a SIMPLE rule about intruders: (unless a little kid), I feel "obligated" to assume they are armed, dangerous and a life threat to myself and family.
I do not feel it is reasonable to "Assume" I am capable of preventing an intruder from brandishing a "hidden" weapon (that I can't see and don't know about) and using it to kill myself and family.
In an intrussion situation, trying to "assume" the intruder "might" not be a threat could cost me or my loved ones their lives.
"Therefore", I think it is "logical" and "rational" to be justified in "assuming" an intruder "IS" a threat to my life and my families life. Therefore, I think it is logical and rational to exterminate any such threat that intrudes into my house.
I suppose there is a slight possibility that a man died from vengeance over stolen goods. But, I would have to revert to my basic KISS rule about intruders. I think the Intruder rule should over-ride any other considerations.
And the "victim" IS the home-owner NOT the injured or killed intruder! :grumpy: - The courts should protect the home-owners - NOT the intruders! :grumpy:
The situations SHOULD be specifically viewed as: there is a potentially life-threatening intruder in my house.
And NOT somebody stole my laptop "yesterday".
Even if possibly just stealing a laptop (again), I would feel "obligated" to assume they are armed and dangerous and might KILL - either to get the laptop - or get out of the situation they were caught in to avoid consequences.
"Intruders" should not be in my house (or car, or similar personal space!)- PERIOD!
So, I would argue the kid used the "tool" for self defense.
Unfortunately, the states prosecuter will probably RAKE the poor kid through the coals. The kid will probably have to pay THOUSANDS of dollars in attorney fees.
No telling if the kid can handle it mentally or not - "it" being having killed somebody AND the "prosecution process"!!!
Interestingly, I don't think most people have a feel for what death or slow death might look like. ...... Or - more importantly - the reality of the TORTURE the prosecutors and court system will likely throw at them for defending themselves.
IMO - luckily (I think/assume ???) the intruder won't be able to fabricate "LIES" about the situation.
Based on the following (that states the intruder is dead):
The story says: "student armed with a samurai sword KILLED an intruder"
And then says: "Police are interviewing the student and his roommates, and are talking to prosecutors about whether to file charges."
Since the "intruder" is dead, I assume I have to assume the Police are talking to "Prosecutors" about filing charges against (???) the "student" for killiing in self defense????
.... Sadly, a bit expected. But, I hate when the system goes after somebody for defending themselves.
In the U.K., I guess the student would have INSTANTLY gone to prison for owning and using such a weapon - even if used for self defense.
.... I WISH the UK and similar countries would do more to prevent these laws and regulations. I assume there just might be more sheeple in the right positions to get such laws passed against knives and guns.
I fear our own country has TOO many sheeple the similarly feel our country should similarly ban knives - let alone swords and guns.
It is SO obvious and frustrating that our country is converting to "sheeplism": I come across sheeple ALL they time now.... more often than not it seems.
Inside, I get furious about people being against me having "tools" for tool use or weapons for the purpose of DEFENDING myself and family. But, it is hard to have rational conversations with most of these people.
Hell.... I find it hard to find rational or logical people anymore period.
It would be one thing if the sheeple were just too afraid to own knives or guns themselves, but at least understood why others have reasonable justifications for owning, carrying and using knives as tools and guns as self defense weapons.
But, the reality is most sheeple obviously feel that "others" should NOT own knives or guns for ANY reason. And these sheeple view knives and guns PRIMARILY as offensive weapons.
This mentallity is an affront to me. :grumpy:
Interesting side note: For many various and shameful historical reasons, we are rightfully taught to not be "prejudice". And I appreciate the rational behind the general meaning intended for the "generic" use of the word "prejudice".
But, in actual use, the word prejudice is vaguely defined.
I am not prejudice against race, color or religion. Although, religion (which shouldn't be discussed on specific grounds) - generally incompasses MANY DIFFERENT ways of "thinking" that often conflict severely with other peoples believes.
I don't believe our laws should be dictated by ANY religion. Sorry for those who might disagree.
I believe in surviving and NOT being a victim.
Too many sheeple seem to obviously "believe" being a victim is acceptable vs. owning something like a knife as a "Tool" or a gun as a self defense weapon should NOT be allowed or tolerated. Again, if sheeple just chose themselves not to own or use knives or guns, that is their prerogative. But, I get pretty BENT when people try to pass laws or even if just generally indicate they believe I should not be allowed to own or carry knives or own or use guns!
This mentallity conflicts with my beliefs SO violently, I don't see how I could NOT be somewhat prejudice to this line of thinking and therefore sheeple - to at least that degree.
In some ways I feel I should pity the sheeple and try to help them understand the values of knives as important tools and the values of being able to defend yourself vs. being a victim or killed. But, most sheeple I try to have these discussions with don't WANT to understand. Not rational.
Our world is changing. Our laws keep getting changed. Our countries system, laws and governing people are designed to "appeal to the popular vote".
What is "written" as law has been shown and proven to be able to be "RE-written". So, Laws WILL change. More of a matter of when than if.
If the sheeple mentallity grows to become a majority, our rights to own and carry knives, own and use guns, and defend ourselves - "WILL" be infringed.
So, it frustrates and saddens me to keep seeing MORE and MORE sheeple mentallities.
rant off.
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