Old cross Pioneer

Discussion in 'SwissBianco' started by raider31, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. raider31

    raider31

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    Dec 29, 2008
    I just acquired a NIB red alox old cross pioneer with brass liners. Is this considers a collectable? Should I carry it or just add it to the collection?
     
  2. ufox9al

    ufox9al Slacker at large Moderator

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Old cross Pioneers seem t be the most common of all old-cross models. That said, NIB/mint pieces tend to sell at a considerable premium over used ones. So, if yours is in new condition, I would make it a shelf queen and pick up another, mildly used one, for EDC ;)
     
  3. raider31

    raider31

    33
    Dec 29, 2008
    Thanks for the reply. I came home from work to find my dog had eaten the box. I guess it's going to make it's way into my edc.
     
  4. swissbianco

    swissbianco Moderator Moderator

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    May 28, 2005
    now that is an excuse for actually edc that colectable lol
     
  5. Mike-The-Knife

    Mike-The-Knife

    Dec 6, 2011
    It is like this one? Mine is an old Elinox , but I carry It often .

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  6. Tuco23

    Tuco23

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    Dec 29, 2014
    Is that a soldier? I dint know they made red ones. Very Nice!
     
  7. Mike-The-Knife

    Mike-The-Knife

    Dec 6, 2011
    I think the Soldier models had a number on the tang . This one has the Elinox markings on one side of the tang and VSSR on the other , so I "believe" it's a pioneer .
     
  8. Tuco23

    Tuco23

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    Dec 29, 2014
    I thought the Soldier was the only model to come with a bail? Either way it’s really cool. I much prefer the old cross logo.
     
  9. ufox9al

    ufox9al Slacker at large Moderator

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    Jun 28, 2007
    Pioneer and Woodsman models were also made with a bail.
     
  10. Tuco23

    Tuco23

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    Dec 29, 2014
    Thanks, good to know. So the date stamp is the only way to definitively identify a Soldier?
     
  11. ufox9al

    ufox9al Slacker at large Moderator

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    Jun 28, 2007
    On the issued Soldiers, the tool set is the same as Pioneer, but 1) the shield is different, 2) there is a year stamp on the tang, and 3) there is no key ring. At various times, there were "mules" produced, with 1 or 2 of the 3 Soldier's distinguishing features. There is a bit of a debate on what to call those, but they have never been issued to Swiss Army.
     
  12. Simian5353

    Simian5353

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    Dec 10, 2014
    Lol! That is something my dog would do! It is as good an excuse as any to carry it. I find that collecting and using don't mix well anyway...
     

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