"Old Knives"

[Campbellclanman]

Charlie posted a stunning Ulster ( above ), I wanted to post this Old Knife because it most certainly suits the Old Knives Thread description.
What intrigues me is the actual wearing down of the wood on this Knife, when holding it in your Hands, the Pins on the Mark side stick out as the Wood around them is worn down, and on the other side the considerable wear which hopefully you can see in the Photos. I was in the thinking that this was intentionally taken down, but after studying the Knife for some time I don't think so and am at the conclusion its simply wear.
I bought the old HJ for next to nothing because in the very poor photos the Punch looked to be a Mayer Punch, but it turns out that the Punch is a wider version of Ulsters Punch ( Punches tend to vary in width to suit the Frame of the Knife - be it the same Punch)
Now forgive me as I am not showing the Knife to be something special- the Main is considerably worn down, but...whoever had this Knife used it a lot! which is great!

Its hard to show in a photo the worn Wood Mark side to really see the exposed pins- compared to actually feeling them and looking at it close up, the Shield as well sits slightly proud with the Wood worn down - if you look carefully you can see the White Glare Highlights move up to the r/h Pin etc, the Pile side you most certainly see the wear!

 

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Campbellclanman
Another beauty my friend!!
A true workhorse of a number, one that the owner must have held for many long hours. The oils and acids from the contact may have (maturely) worn those nice scales further down as the pins could handle it.
Very nice and thanks for the share... I luv worked knives too, such history you can actually feel

 

[lambertiana]

Charlie posted a stunning Ulster ( above ), I wanted to post this Old Knife because it most certainly suits the Old Knives Thread description.
What intrigues me is the actual wearing down of the wood on this Knife, when holding it in your Hands, the Pins on the Mark side stick out as the Wood around them is worn down, and on the other side the considerable wear which hopefully you can see in the Photos. I was in the thinking that this was intentionally taken down, but after studying the Knife for some time I don't think so and am at the conclusion its simply wear.
I bought the old HJ for next to nothing because in the very poor photos the Punch looked to be a Mayer Punch, but it turns out that the Punch is a wider version of Ulsters Punch ( Punches tend to vary in width to suit the Frame of the Knife - be it the same Punch)
Now forgive me as I am not showing the Knife to be something special- the Main is considerably worn down, but...whoever had this Knife used it a lot! which is great!

Its hard to show in a photo the worn Wood Mark side to really see the exposed pins- compared to actually feeling them and looking at it close up, the Shield as well sits slightly proud with the Wood worn down - if you look carefully you can see the White Glare Highlights move up to the r/h Pin etc, the Pile side you most certainly see the wear!

That knife has spent some time in pockets.

 

[rockman0]

I've had this one awhile, I'm not sure if it was a factory 2nd, put together from parts after NYK closed or what I liked the bone and shield and the price was right so why not. It's tight and snappy despite the sloppy appearance of the assembly job.

 

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rockman0
Sweet bone covers! well carved up and such rich colours
That shield and blade combo is really something else, such character
I guess it goes to show a knife doesn’t have to be so purdy to stand the test of time
Thanks for the share Rob!

 

[Campbellclanman]

That’s a nice looking Knife Rob. There’s a lot going on with it isn’t there!

 

[rockman0]

Thanks Gus

rockman0
Sweet bone covers! well carved up and such rich colours
That shield and blade combo is really something else, such character
I guess it goes to show a knife doesn’t have to be so purdy to stand the test of time
Thanks for the share Rob!

Spun pins, all of my NYK knives have hammered pins, ground off NYK stamp, the center liner sits higher than the bolsters and frame, It's a mess but still a good looking knife
Thanks Duncan

That’s a nice looking Knife Rob. There’s a lot going on with it isn’t there!

 

[r8shell]

Charlie posted a stunning Ulster ( above ), I wanted to post this Old Knife because it most certainly suits the Old Knives Thread description.
What intrigues me is the actual wearing down of the wood on this Knife, when holding it in your Hands, the Pins on the Mark side stick out as the Wood around them is worn down, and on the other side the considerable wear which hopefully you can see in the Photos. I was in the thinking that this was intentionally taken down, but after studying the Knife for some time I don't think so and am at the conclusion its simply wear.
I bought the old HJ for next to nothing because in the very poor photos the Punch looked to be a Mayer Punch, but it turns out that the Punch is a wider version of Ulsters Punch ( Punches tend to vary in width to suit the Frame of the Knife - be it the same Punch)
Now forgive me as I am not showing the Knife to be something special- the Main is considerably worn down, but...whoever had this Knife used it a lot! which is great!

Its hard to show in a photo the worn Wood Mark side to really see the exposed pins- compared to actually feeling them and looking at it close up, the Shield as well sits slightly proud with the Wood worn down - if you look carefully you can see the White Glare Highlights move up to the r/h Pin etc, the Pile side you most certainly see the wear!

It looks like that was somebody's worry stone for decades!

 

[Luger1952]

Rob, those jigged bone handles are the redeeming feature of this Jack Hammered pins would be nice but spun pins are indicative of assembly dating.

 

[Campbellclanman]

Augie, here are the photo's that I said I would take, the three of the Fox Cutlery knives.
Two HJ's and one Jack, they all share the same Tang Stamp and same Blade etc, no mention of Germany whatsoever, made in USA.

1st Knife:
Spear Point HJ Jigged Bone.
Salesman example not correctly stored right- the Knife has never had any use and the beginning of the Numbers 22... on Pile side Main, the Bone imo is really nicely jigged, Has the Utica styled Punch, I like the Knife very much.

2nd Knife: Nicely styled ( Half Coke Bottle ) Frame, Has a Nice Slim Clip Point with Ulster Styled Punch - although I do not think its an Ulster Punch ( the face of the Punch is Flat not concave at all in the slightest ). Lovely Shield!
A wonderful HJ, this Knife has HJ Royalty DNA on it...

3rd Knife:
Remembering this Knife is near enough to 100 years old, Light Pepper stains on Blade - you can still see etc. exactly the same as the Other Knives, same Tang Stamp, Looks to be Cocobolo Wood Handles - in nice condition.....

 

[Augie]

Augie, here are the photo's that I said I would take, the three of the Fox Cutlery knives.
Two HJ's and one Jack, they all share the same Tang Stamp and same Blade etc, no mention of Germany whatsoever, made in USA.

1st Knife:
Spear Point HJ Jigged Bone.
Salesman example not correctly stored right- the Knife has never had any use and the beginning of the Numbers 22... on Pile side Main, the Bone imo is really nicely jigged, Has the Utica styled Punch, I like the Knife very much.

2nd Knife: Nicely styled ( Half Coke Bottle ) Frame, Has a Nice Slim Clip Point with Ulster Styled Punch - although I do not think its an Ulster Punch ( the face of the Punch is Flat not concave at all in the slightest ). Lovely Shield!
A wonderful HJ, this Knife has HJ Royalty DNA on it...

3rd Knife:
Remembering this Knife is near enough to 100 years old, Light Pepper stains on Blade - you can still see etc. exactly the same as the Other Knives, same Tang Stamp, Looks to be Cocobolo Wood Handles - in nice condition.....

Thanks Duncan, those are 3 great examples, interestingly enough all 3 of yours have a curved tang stamp while mine is a straight. I'm wondering if we might be dealing with 2 different companies, Goins has multiple Fox Cutlery Companies listed without a whole lot of information. Of course it could be the same company with the tang stamps coming from different times.

 

[Campbellclanman]

I’m not sure Augie but when looking at your Knife it’s definitely looks earlier than my knives. Perhaps same company, or contracted out to another, another internal customer manufacturer, there are many different angles this could go - either way my friend that’s a real nice old Dogleg you have there.

 

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Campbellclanman
All three of those are a real treat
The first one is so well preserved with quite sharp jiggin’, vivid hues and great punch and blade.
The second’s lines and details are unique, again with a great shield and punch.
Both are HJ triumphs.
The third’s crazy red coco, smooth grain and nickel pins are very elegant.
Thanks for the share Duncan

 

[Un-Chained]

Another starter for us here in the west.
This 622119 Robeson brown bone sleeveboard jack at 4” 1/2 has seen a bit of work some of the main’s clip point is long gone (paint cans?) short by roughly 1/8”. The pen’s blade fared somewhat better, shorter by roughly a 1/16”. A bit of play on both with wonderful snap on the main and a tad less on the secondary. The sound is sublime, and the worn tan handles are quite comfy in the hand.

 

[rockman0]

I assumed the spun pins ruled out it being assembled by NYK. as I've not seen another with spun pins. Lloyd, I'm with you on the bone Thanks

Rob, those jigged bone handles are the redeeming feature of this Jack Hammered pins would be nice but spun pins are indicative of assembly dating.

Fantastic trio, Duncan man that bone is beautiful

Augie, here are the photo's that I said I would take, the three of the Fox Cutlery knives.
Two HJ's and one Jack, they all share the same Tang Stamp and same Blade etc, no mention of Germany whatsoever, made in USA.

1st Knife:
Spear Point HJ Jigged Bone.
Salesman example not correctly stored right- the Knife has never had any use and the beginning of the Numbers 22... on Pile side Main, the Bone imo is really nicely jigged, Has the Utica styled Punch, I like the Knife very much.

2nd Knife: Nicely styled ( Half Coke Bottle ) Frame, Has a Nice Slim Clip Point with Ulster Styled Punch - although I do not think its an Ulster Punch ( the face of the Punch is Flat not concave at all in the slightest ). Lovely Shield!
A wonderful HJ, this Knife has HJ Royalty DNA on it...

3rd Knife:
Remembering this Knife is near enough to 100 years old, Light Pepper stains on Blade - you can still see etc. exactly the same as the Other Knives, same Tang Stamp, Looks to be Cocobolo Wood Handles - in nice condition.....

That's a dandy old Robeson, Gus love the bone and shield perfect size to carry!

Another starter for us here in the west.
This 622119 Robeson brown bone sleeveboard jack at 4” 1/2 has seen a bit of work some of the main’s clip point is long gone (paint cans?) short by roughly 1/8”. The pen’s blade fared somewhat better, shorter by roughly a 1/16”. A bit of play on both with wonderful snap on the main and a tad less on the secondary. The sound is sublime, and the worn tan handles are quite comfy in the hand.
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[rockman0]

Smooth as silk action on this NYK lockback. Now as you see this knife was cast aside after failing the Mike Robuck paint can test and I'm thankful for that as had it made it to the baton test I fear the action may have become sloppy. All she needed was a proper tip, a good sharpening and a bloody rib eye

 

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rockman0
Doesn’t NYK Co. just have the craziest jigged bone with those swedges and long—pulls
Such wonderful pocket candy Rob

 

[rockman0]

Their bone was great stuff, deeply jigged with rich colors
Thanks my friend

rockman0
Doesn’t NYK Co. just have the craziest jigged bone with those swedges and long—pulls
Such wonderful pocket candy Rob

 

[Mike Robuck]

I remember that knife Rob! I have found that the paint can puncture test is good for removing those annoying blade etches. Here it is pre-testing:

 

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Mike Robuck
Such a dandy