One criticism of Paramilitary 2...

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The distal taper of the blade is a bit too extreme, IMO, for this knife's intended purpose. I could easily see snapping it off under hard use. Don't get me wrong though, the knife slices incredibly well, but it is skewed too far in favor of slicing/stabbing vs tip strength.

The 3.5mm blade thickness stat is misleading, as the blade has a fairly radical taper.

Otherwise, I like the knife a lot. Just wish it didn't taper so much.
 
Well, one may reasonably assume that Spyderco has a wealth of experience in this area - so my presumption will be that tip strength will not be an issue. I have seen a Military or two with a snapped tip (I have one), and the Delica 4 and Endura 4 have tips less prone to breakage than their predecessors.

If tip breakage were an issue, we would probably see it in the Military. And for the most part we do not.

One must also be cognizant of how much flexion or torque they can put on blade that - as you note - is more geared toward the slicer end of the spectrum.

Time will tell if the Para 2 has tip issues. I suspect not. Mr. UPSman is bringing me one today, btw.

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Thanks for the info. I was hoping these would have a thicker tip, closer to that on my old Endura.

I guess I'll pass on this one. I do love my large Millies for the wieght/size ratio, but do wish they had a slightly thicker tip.
 
I love the tips, though the thinner blade stock is disappointing. Not keeping the 4mm blade?
 
Goldistheanswer said:
The distal taper of the blade is a bit too extreme, IMO, for this knife's intended purpose.
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Or perhaps your assumptions as to its intended purpose are incorrect.

Paul
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The one criticism I have is that the bushing pivot system allows the slightest side to side play. You cannot adjust it out either with the bushing system, once it is tight, it is tight. Any of you other guys experience this at all?

Otherwise, this is a superb piece and will definitely be fighting for EDC time. Great job Sal and co. at Spyderco!!:thumbup:
 
Have not got any criticism of Paramilitary2 or the orginal Para. (accept that the pocket clip is ugly:rolleyes:)...
 
I believe the Para 2 is going to win many converts among those of us who weren't that excited about the original.
 
I'm still waiting for mine to get here from the KC, but I like the clip. For me the black clips are the worst.

-Tye
 
I could care less what color the clip is, as long as it retains in my pocket I'm happy.

I've had and used my Para for the last 3 yrs. Absolutely love this knife for an EDC. Whenever I switch over to one of my other premium folders I find the Para back in my pocket within days.

My primary use of a knife is cutting. Not too concerned about the tip. I must not stress the tips on my knives very much because I've never broken one.

Looking forward to a Para 2. Expect it will be my B-day present from my wife, or son. Not that I've given any hints. :D
 
If the blade stock is thinner, more power to Sal & Co. I bet the para2 will cut even better if that's the case. "Hard Use" as defined in this context is of no concern to me. I loved the old enduras and delicas with the needle tips, far more useful than the ones on the endura4.
 
JohnnyO said:
I could care less what color the clip is, as long as it retains in my pocket I'm happy.

I've had and used my Para for the last 3 yrs. Absolutely love this knife for an EDC. Whenever I switch over to one of my other premium folders I find the Para back in my pocket within days.

My primary use of a knife is cutting. Not too concerned about the tip. I must not stress the tips on my knives very much because I've never broken one.

Looking forward to a Para 2. Expect it will be my B-day present from my wife, or son. Not that I've given any hints. :D
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A nice positive post Johnny. I really hate seeing guys beating up on the Para II,
before its in the hands of many. Ya the ole Birthday knife trick, been there half a dozen times, so far this year :p
 
I received mine today. When I first opened it, I thought that NG had sent me a Para 1. But then I saw the giant lanyard hole, the clip attachment points way down at the end of the scales, the bald clip and I figured out that I had a Para 2. Point being that at first blush the two knives are very similar. If you liked the Para 1, you'll like the Para 2. Its a Para 1 with small but significant improvements.
 
To those that want a different clip, can you switch it with the clip that comes with the standard Delica or Gayle Bradley? The screw pattern appears the same.
 
RevDevil said:
To those that want a different clip, can you switch it with the clip that comes with the standard Delica or Gayle Bradley? The screw pattern appears the same.
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you can indeed with the Delica Clip. Not sure about the Gayle bradly one, as I've not handled one.

Dave
 
Bapple said:
The one criticism I have is that the bushing pivot system allows the slightest side to side play. You cannot adjust it out either with the bushing system, once it is tight, it is tight. Any of you other guys experience this at all?

Otherwise, this is a superb piece and will definitely be fighting for EDC time. Great job Sal and co. at Spyderco!!:thumbup:
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I've cycled the knife open and closed probably 500 hundred+ times. Have not cut anything with it yet but paper. There *is* some horizontal blade play. It is definitely there. No vertical blade play at all for me.

I have not tried tightening the pivot yet, as it may have loosened up with the cycling. So I will try that and report back.

But yes, if it is a pivot bushing system like the Sebenza, which I am guessing it is, tightening may not do anything. I imagine for a system like this to work the tolerances have to be ridiculously tight (probably why the Sebenza is so expensive) as the depth of the bushing has to be exactly the same as the depth of the blade with two washers (or perhaphs a hair smaller?). So it makes you wonder what they were thinking putting this system in a $100 knife, where I am assuming it is not economically viable to have such tight tolerances.

Please set me straight if I have said anything inaccurate.
 
I have heard this one before - yes - I'm curious if this is indeed inherent with the current parameters of the parts.

Bapple said:
The one criticism I have is that the bushing pivot system allows the slightest side to side play. You cannot adjust it out either with the bushing system, once it is tight, it is tight. Any of you other guys experience this at all?

Otherwise, this is a superb piece and will definitely be fighting for EDC time. Great job Sal and co. at Spyderco!!:thumbup:
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