One way to determine edge angle

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I found this on another website just now and thought it was neat enough to share. For those who don't have a bubble jig, Lanskys, Edge Pro, etc. (like me), this should really help. Now if I could just figure out how to determine the edge right on my Paper Wheels...
Jason

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Knife Sharpening: Coin Trick & Magic Angle Finder

Here’s a quick Technique of the Week to get us started. You often read that you should sharpen your knife to 20° or 15° or some other seemingly arbitrary number. If you have a standard European-style (German, French or something along those lines) chef’s knife, it probably has edge angles of 20-25° per side. A western-style Japanese chef’s knife (Shun, Mac, Global, et at) will have edge angles about 15-16° per side. The trick is being able to find and repeat those angles. That’s where the Magic Angle Finder comes in. I won’t go into the math, but you can divide the height of the blade (at the heel) by a specific number to find out how high to raise the spine above the sharpening stone for a given angle. It sounds more complicated than it really is. Here’s how it works:

Chad’s Magic Angle Finder

For 20° divide by 3
For 15° divide by 4
For 12° divide by 5
For 10° divide by 6
For 8° divide by 7

So, if your chef’s knife is 1.5 inches tall, measured from spine to edge, and you want to put a 20° edge on it, just divide 1.5 by 3 to get .5 inches. Lay the knife flat on the stone and then raise the spine .5 inches. You have just set the edge angle at 20°. It works in metric, too. If you want to put a racy 12° edge angle on your Japanese gyuto and it is 45mm wide at the heel, just divide 45 by 5 to get 9. Raise the spine to 9mm above the stone and you are good to go. It can be a little tedious to sit there with a ruler, checking to make sure you’re at the right height but the payoff in consistency is well worth it. It also helps ingrain the angles into muscle memory so that the next time is much easier.

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Coin Tricks

If that is too nerdy for you, you can just use a stack of quarters. A US quarter coin is officially .069 inches thick, though they vary slightly. Four quarters is a little more than .25″, five quarters is about .33″, six quarters is about .4″, 7 quarters is just under .5″ and eight quarters is just over .5″. It takes a surprising 15 quarters to reach a full inch high.

To raise the spine of your chef’s knife .5″, use 7 quarters. It’s not quite .5″ but the width of the spine makes up the difference and puts the spine at almost exactly the right height.
 
I like it pretty good and should be relatively quick unless you have kids cause they love to take my quarters
 
I like it pretty good and should be relatively quick unless you have kids cause they love to take my quarters

Lol. My quarters seem to disappear too! My son says he collects them but I just found out he takes them to school and buys shaped erasers from the library.
 
Great post! I thought I'd seen all the angle related knife sharpening tricks of the trade; this is new to me. It could prove very useful away from the shop without ones regular sharpening gear. Thanks for sharing.

Fred
 
I just clamp it into my Wicked Edge vise and sharpen it to whatever angle I want.

Then I know for certainty!

The Wicked Edge is set to read correctly at 0.625" above the vice jaws. Most knives vary from this, some higher some a bit lower. Trigonometry is not my friend. To be certain of the precise angle on your knife using the Wicked Edge:

Grind the bevel until you have a zero edge. Next activate the angle finder app in your telephone. Zero app reading on the table, lay a stone on the bevel, put edge of phone on the stone, angles read in 0.1° using this method.

I use the leather strops so I don't scratch my phone body with the diamond stones!
 
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