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It's just a thread title. Chill.
Both of those are very good folders. Unfortunately it's too late for me to stay with practicality, I'm a lost cause.
Excuse me while I go play with my Striders and Sebenza.
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It's just a thread title. Chill.
Both of those are very good folders. Unfortunately it's too late for me to stay with practicality, I'm a lost cause.
Excuse me while I go play with my Striders and Sebenza.
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It's just a thread title. Chill.
Both of those are very good folders. Unfortunately it's too late for me to stay with practicality, I'm a lost cause.
Excuse me while I go play with my Striders and Sebenza.
I have a few very expensive (in my eyes) knives. A CF s90v Para2, a sebenza on the way, etc. Even though these are technically "better" knives, I find that I get just as excited to play with new ~30-50 dollar knives.
OP, don't buy in to the notion that you have to buy really expensive stuff to enjoy this hobby. I think that the two knives you mentioned are excellent for their price point. Have fun with them and don't let anyone else tell you that those knives are less worthy because of the steel, materials, or anything else. I quite enjoy cheaper knives, even though I have splurged on a few high end ones.
And to the person I quoted, I wasn't directing the "knife snobbery" part of my post towards you. It was just a blanket statement that I was directing towards the less tolerant members.
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no offense taken. I love good quality, low cost folders anytime as well (my youtube name is victorinoxfan) and as you could guess I'm happy as a kid on Christmas every time I get a new SAK. Love me some spydercos, and my RAT 1 and Opinel 8 are my go to beater knives.
Merely adding some humour
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Speaking of SAKs, I don't own a single one. I need to get one or two, although I like the alox models the best. Which one would be the best?
I prefer my persistence to the tenacious just because I like the smaller blade for edc. Many people love the flash 1 but it's just never really appealed to me, the rat 1 is a pretty nice knife for the money and so is the ka-bar dozier. There are tons of great knives in the under 50$ range so it all depends on personal preference.
As for saks theres so many to chose from, my personal favourite is the huntsman but it doesnt come in alox... The cadet and farmer are a good route to go if you want an alox sak.
As for saks theres so many to chose from, my personal favourite is the huntsman but it doesnt come in alox... The cadet and farmer are a good route to go if you want an alox sak.
i've had good aus-8 and bad aus-8. for me 8cr13 has been more consistent. but when aus-8 is done well, it's really good.
and i completely agree with you on the rat 1. love that knife, although i would like to see if anyone has done any custom scales for it.
too many people that is more of a condemnation rather than a compliment.
Yes I didn't mean the title to sound authoritative, just kind of a fun way of starting the thread, sorry to give the wrong impression MikeC.
Hmmm, while I am a Ka-Bar/Becker fan I have wanted to try one of the fixed blade Ontario or ESSE knives. So thats cool that RAT made a folder that inexpensive. I watched a few you tube video's and it looks like a solid knife. A lot do a "Rat1 vs Tenacious" thread or video.
So it does appear to be a large folder, probably illegal to carry in my area
Our only knife law in NC is you can only carry a folder that is no larger than 3.5" when closed. The blade length is unimportant and there isn't laws about fixed blades, kind of weird (except someone said a case law that stated a 4" fixed blade is the max)
The Tenacious is excacly 3.5" and within the legal limits I believe and from what I just read the Rat1 is 5" closed. Our laws on knives suck, most were written back before The Great Depression. A policeman told me there isn't a cop in town that would normally bust you for any concealed knife (within reason) as long as you weren't breaking any other laws. DWI and a 5" knife, you get chaged with both. Carrying a 5" inch knife, the cop isn't going to waste his time and go break out the measuring tape (and probably doesn't know what the law is anyway).
Basically a common sense type of thing in a small town. Butcher across the street buying a drink with a butcher knife in his pocket ok....18 year old kid at 2am with a butcher knife not ok.
All that to say I'm gonna get one
Hmmm, while I am a Ka-Bar/Becker fan I have wanted to try one of the fixed blade Ontario or ESSE knives. So thats cool that RAT made a folder that inexpensive. I watched a few you tube video's and it looks like a solid knife. A lot do a "Rat1 vs Tenacious" thread or video.
So it does appear to be a large folder, probably illegal to carry in my area
Our only knife law in NC is you can only carry a folder that is no larger than 3.5" when closed. The blade length is unimportant and there isn't laws about fixed blades, kind of weird (except someone said a case law that stated a 4" fixed blade is the max)The Tenacious is excacly 3.5" and within the legal limits I believe and from what I just read the Rat1 is 5" closed. Our laws on knives suck, most were written back before The Great Depression. A policeman told me there isn't a cop in town that would normally bust you for any concealed knife (within reason) as long as you weren't breaking any other laws. DWI and a 5" knife, you get chaged with both. Carrying a 5" inch knife, the cop isn't going to waste his time and go break out the measuring tape (and probably doesn't know what the law is anyway).
Basically a common sense type of thing in a small town. Butcher across the street buying a drink with a butcher knife in his pocket ok....18 year old kid at 2am with a butcher knife not ok.
All that to say I'm gonna get one
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I have some Byrds in 8cr13 and I have a Moki-made Beretta in AUS 8. Given the level of quality control exercised by both companies, I figure that both are probably heat treated about as well as they can be. The AUS 8 Beretta is in a whole different league in terms of edge retention--it blows the Byrds out of the water.
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I'm a noob to the knife world having purchased my first "real" knife last May - a Spyderco Caly 3. I was bit by the Spydie bug HARD, and am now up to nearly 30 Spydies. And, my collection is generally filled with the more expensive models (Gayle Bradley, Para 2 S90V, Sage 1 & 2, Lum Chinese, etc).
I also have a Tenacious. And, my non-expert opinion that the Tenacious is a HELLUVA knife for $30. Amazing quality for the price. Lock-up is rock solid. G10 scales are nice, too. My Tenacious gave me my first "Spydie bite" right out of the box. Closed it on my thumb-nail and it easily went right through it. Bled through the nail - gnarly!
I also have a Tenacious. And, my non-expert opinion that the Tenacious is a HELLUVA knife for $30. Amazing quality for the price. Lock-up is rock solid. G10 scales are nice, too. My Tenacious gave me my first "Spydie bite" right out of the box. Closed it on my thumb-nail and it easily went right through it. Bled through the nail - gnarly!
Nothing wrong with inexpensive knives, well there are a few to stay away from....
I generally carry a tactical style folder in my right front pocket, and they are fairly expensive, at least to me. Current carry is a John W Smith SD-3.
But in my left front pocket I am carrying a Hammer Brand, from Taylor Knives, that cost me $15.00, a BIG drop off from my right pocket! Yet this knife does 95% of my daily knife chores, and does them well.:thumbup:
I generally carry a tactical style folder in my right front pocket, and they are fairly expensive, at least to me. Current carry is a John W Smith SD-3.
But in my left front pocket I am carrying a Hammer Brand, from Taylor Knives, that cost me $15.00, a BIG drop off from my right pocket! Yet this knife does 95% of my daily knife chores, and does them well.:thumbup:
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For those knife enthuaiasts that haven't tried SAK but been with most locking folders, I suggest taking their new OH (One Hand) opener models. They are big but being SAK might not raise eyebrows that much along sheepies. Blades are flat ground & quite thin, but you can always pry with the flathead screwdriver
To the OP, try out Sanrenmu. They are made in China and uses same steel as Byrd. Some forumites might disagree with this due to perceived design stealing, but I come from knife enjoyment at low cost point of view, of each individual knife by itself.
Enjoy!
ps: I EDC Sanrenmu GB 763 (some youtube videos showing lock failure at spine whack test, but not happens with mine.), Sanrenmu black 710 (the controversial Sebenza look alike one) and SAK One Hand Sentinel & Spartan Lite
To the OP, try out Sanrenmu. They are made in China and uses same steel as Byrd. Some forumites might disagree with this due to perceived design stealing, but I come from knife enjoyment at low cost point of view, of each individual knife by itself.
Enjoy!
ps: I EDC Sanrenmu GB 763 (some youtube videos showing lock failure at spine whack test, but not happens with mine.), Sanrenmu black 710 (the controversial Sebenza look alike one) and SAK One Hand Sentinel & Spartan Lite
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Hi wmc1982 -
I have the SOG Flash 1, and mine does have the rattling and blade play, and I too have snagged the clip on a couch cushion of all things, which bent it. The clip was easily returned to it's original bend by removing and tweaking it back with pliers. The knife takes a great edge, and holds up ok for the small stuff I use the knife for, i.e. opening packages, trimming, cutting line etc.
The knife is smaller than most of the knives I have, and it was a gift to me from a very good friend.
I normally take this knife with me when I go into Chicago due to the size limit rules up there.
I enjoy the knife, and it has not given me any trouble except for that clip incident.
I would recommend to anyone considering a Flash 1 that they look at the slightly larger Kershaw Leek, or even better, the Kershaw Skyline. The Leek is assisted opening with a slender and pointy modified wharncliffe blade. The Skyline is a flipper with a thicker, sturdier spear-point blade and G10 handles.
Either knife can be found well under $40, and the skyline can be had for under $30 delivered. I find either knife to outshine the SOG in quality of build and overall feel.
Kershaw also make several other models in the same price range, both assisted and non-assisted (Zing, Mini-Cyclone etc.)
I always carry a SAK Waiter model in my left front pocket. That is a great little knife with a bottle opener, screwdriver/bottle/can opener and a spear-point blade, good useable tweezers and a toothpick. It is a quality knife that can be had for $12 on amazon last time I looked.
The Buck 110 is an awesome knife with great build quality and old-school looks; in fact, it is the design that made "the look". I prefer the smaller Buck 112 - it is otherwise identical to the 110, just a little smaller. Both are heavy by today's standards. The 112 is a little more expensive new, but either can be found on the bay for under $30. Buck also makes an assisted opening folder with pocket clip called the Sirus which can be found for $30 on the web specials on the Buck web site - it is a sturdy little liner lock and is made in USA as well.
There are many, MANY options out there for the enthusiast that has a $30 budget. It's a great time to have the "problem" of picking one out.
best regards -
mqqn
I have the SOG Flash 1, and mine does have the rattling and blade play, and I too have snagged the clip on a couch cushion of all things, which bent it. The clip was easily returned to it's original bend by removing and tweaking it back with pliers. The knife takes a great edge, and holds up ok for the small stuff I use the knife for, i.e. opening packages, trimming, cutting line etc.
The knife is smaller than most of the knives I have, and it was a gift to me from a very good friend.
I normally take this knife with me when I go into Chicago due to the size limit rules up there.
I enjoy the knife, and it has not given me any trouble except for that clip incident.
I would recommend to anyone considering a Flash 1 that they look at the slightly larger Kershaw Leek, or even better, the Kershaw Skyline. The Leek is assisted opening with a slender and pointy modified wharncliffe blade. The Skyline is a flipper with a thicker, sturdier spear-point blade and G10 handles.
Either knife can be found well under $40, and the skyline can be had for under $30 delivered. I find either knife to outshine the SOG in quality of build and overall feel.
Kershaw also make several other models in the same price range, both assisted and non-assisted (Zing, Mini-Cyclone etc.)
I always carry a SAK Waiter model in my left front pocket. That is a great little knife with a bottle opener, screwdriver/bottle/can opener and a spear-point blade, good useable tweezers and a toothpick. It is a quality knife that can be had for $12 on amazon last time I looked.
The Buck 110 is an awesome knife with great build quality and old-school looks; in fact, it is the design that made "the look". I prefer the smaller Buck 112 - it is otherwise identical to the 110, just a little smaller. Both are heavy by today's standards. The 112 is a little more expensive new, but either can be found on the bay for under $30. Buck also makes an assisted opening folder with pocket clip called the Sirus which can be found for $30 on the web specials on the Buck web site - it is a sturdy little liner lock and is made in USA as well.
There are many, MANY options out there for the enthusiast that has a $30 budget. It's a great time to have the "problem" of picking one out.
best regards -
mqqn
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just cannot warm up with the flash series, the only one that attracts me is the aegis, but it's kinda pricy for the material...