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They are not common. In the heyday of Old Hickory, I can imagine that most housewives would have been turned off by that behemoth. In decent condition, I've seen them fetch surprising prices.Has anyone else come across one of these? I picked one up a while ago and have yet to see another one out there. Are they limited in number or just not common?![]()
So ugly yet beautiful at the same time!Has anyone else come across one of these? I picked one up a while ago and have yet to see another one out there. Are they limited in number or just not common?![]()
Not the 12" but old hickory knives in general are still available new, at least they are right now anyways.So ugly yet beautiful at the same time!
You can still buy these new and used. IIRC they are forged 1075 carbon steel, mid 50s HRC, so not great in edge retention department, and they will patina if you just breath on them.
I sure hope not.I'm betting we will be seeing Chinese made Old Hickory knives before the year is out.
It happened a long time ago. I have a butcher knife version called "Sir Lawrence" from Taiwan. You can find them on EBAY:I sure hope not.
I'd rather see them die in glory than be made in China.
Taiwan and China are not the same. I have no issues with the former but a considerable amount with the latter.It happened a long time ago. I have a butcher knife version called "Sir Lawrence" from Taiwan. You can find them on EBAY:
It's changing. Mercer Culinary used to get their OEM knives only from Taiwan; now they are getting some from China.Taiwan and China are not the same. I have no issues with the former but a considerable amount with the latter.
No it didn't, not if these weren't an Ontario product .It happened a long time ago. I have a butcher knife version called "Sir Lawrence" from Taiwan. You can find them on EBAY:
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I've had my carbon steel Sir Lawrence for more than 30 years.
That does not negate or refute what I stated. Cold Steel use to have the Trail Master manufactured in China. But they switched to Taiwan. But like your statement, that's an irrelevant fact.It's changing. Mercer Culinary used to get their OEM knives only from Taiwan; now they are getting some from China.
I understand that the Old Hickory profile was patented in the 1930's--oldest continuously sold knife profile on the market--so knockoffs from all over the world abound (as you note).No it didn't, not if these weren't an Ontario product .
Does the packaging say OKC on it anywhere, or are these just some Old Hickory style knives that don't actually have any connection to OKC whatsoever?
The old Hickory style is popular and was widely copied in the US and in other countries for export to the US.
Case makes some similar knives, EKCO had EKCO FORGE, and there was also the Forgecraft line of knives.
I have also seen some that were made in Japan if I'm not mistaken but can't remember what the prand was
I clearly see a lot more acceptance of Chinese Kitchen knives in the American market than in the past--but your point is well taken.That does not negate or refute what I stated. Cold Steel use to have the Trail Master manufactured in China. But they switched to Taiwan. But like your statement, that's an irrelevant fact.
I don't have any figures to back that up. But, I would not at all be surprised as the vast majority of kitchen knife buyers are oblivious to who makes them where, what steel is used, and make purchase decisions based entirely on price. I consider this forum to be above that level.I clearly see a lot more acceptance of Chinese Kitchen knives in the American market than in the past--but your point is well taken.
No I believe that would be the Dexter Russell Green River knives, and maybe more specifically the fish knife / hunter, the sheath knife, or the Dadley.I understand that the Old Hickory profile was patented in the 1930's--oldest continuously sold knife profile on the market--so knockoffs from all over the world abound (as you note).
I've encountered more than a few bloggers who wouldn't even consider a quality Chinese knife purchased from AliExpress. I've heard even stronger statements about Chinese cookware. In a big box store, it's a different story. They are every bit as oblivious as you suggest. IMO, of course.I don't have any figures to back that up. But, I would not at all be surprised as the vast majority of kitchen knife buyers are oblivious to who makes them where, what steel is used, and make purchase decisions based entirely on price. I consider this forum to be above that level.
I'm a fan of Old Hickory more for the profile and nostalgia. To me, it captures something very American in the simplicity of design--regardless of where it is manufactured. My Sir Lawrence butcher knife has the same distinguishing pattern--and the same carbon steel--and it was a foundation knife, given to me, that began my exploration of kitchen knives.No I believe that would be the Dexter Russell Green River knives, and maybe more specifically the fish knife / hunter, the sheath knife, or the Dadley.
But regardless I said I'd rather see the Ontario Old Hickory knives die in glory than be made in China, and you're claiming it aleady happened a long time ago just because there were unrelated Old hickory knockoffs being made in Taiwan 30 years ago ?
No, Old Hickory knives have never been made anywhere but in the USA and I'd like to keep it that way.
Old Hickory is a line of knives by OKC, not a type or pattern of knife.
The only thing that really distinguishes them from other traditional American rectangular wood handled cutlery is the stamped pattern that gave them instant brand recognition.