Ontario Military Knife

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I saw this knife on the web its a Ontario XM-1 Extreme Military, its specs are:
Ultra-light, Heavy Duty, Precision Balanced.
N690 Co-Cobolt enhanced stainless steel, cryoquenched.
Ergonomic thumb ramp and finger groove for positive hand placement under high torque.
Dual Titanium liner locks increase stability and overall strength while maintaining light weight.
Reversible black coated stainless pocket clip. Lanyard hole.
XM-1 & XM-1S handles are machined aircraft aluminum with a hard anodized coating.
XM-1D & XM-1DS handles are machined aircraft aluminum with rubberized camo coating.
Blade Length: 3 3/8"
Overall Length: 8"
Closed Length: 4 3/4"

Weight: 6.3 oz

ANYONE EVER PLAY WITH ONE?
 
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In my opinion, I'd get a Spyderco Military, or Paramilitary, instead. The Military is a couple ounces lighter, and being longer (closed) gives you a longer blade. If closed length is a problem, get a Paramilitary. The Military and the Paramilitary have all the strength you would need. 6.3 ounces (the XM-1) just seems like a lot of weight to me.

The other thing is the "dual" liner locks on the XM-1 . . . why? Seems overkill to the point of ridiculous to me. How do you unlock two liner locks, on a one-handed knife?

Again, these are just my opinions, but those are my thoughts. Others may feel differently.

thx - cpr
 
orca8589 said:
The other thing is the "dual" liner locks on the XM-1 . . . why? Seems overkill to the point of ridiculous to me. How do you unlock two liner locks, on a one-handed knife?

Again, these are just my opinions, but those are my thoughts. Others may feel differently.

thx - cpr
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How do you have an opinion on a knife you've never handled?
How much you want to bet it's dual LINERS, not dual LINER LOCKS?
 
Wow... Googled this knife and the first thing I noticed was how thick the aluminium scales were. Looks very sturdy and over engineered. Thanks, I didn't know Ontario made something like this. I'd be interested to hear from someone who have used this too.

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I had a chance to handle one. I's a well made knife with THICK (read thick) AL handle scales. To me, it would feel like a roll of quarters clipped in my pocket. If you carry in loose pants or some other form of method, it should be fine. The knife has two steel liners and one lock side, much like any other right hand liner lock. Lock-up was good as I recall. I liked the knife, but it was way too thick for me.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
How do you have an opinion on a knife you've never handled?
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Well, with all due respect, you're right - I haven't handled one. But I did see one, however, at a store south of here, and I thought it was a TOPS model. The owner corrected me, and I asked about a sheath; he said it had a clip. :eek: I was surprised since this thing was so large. (I used to pocket-carry a U.S. Schrade LB7 in high school, upright, next to my wallet. I later added a clip to one, and then removed it, because of the weight.) The OP specifically commented "ultra-light".

I didn't bother to handle it because I figured it was too big to be practical for me on a day-to-day basis. It certainly looked impressive, though.

Esav Benyamin said:
How much you want to bet it's dual LINERS, not dual LINER LOCKS?
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Ontario's ad copy does say "dual liner locks". Your point makes sense though - they probably do mean "dual liners"; I wasn't thinking about that. The one I saw was in such a position that I didn't see the liner lock portion, but both liners were - jimped? Ribbed? I'm not sure of the appropriate word, but they were finished identically from what I could see, and they certainly gave the impression that either (or both) could be used as a lock, as improbable as that may be.

I decided to give my opinion because after almost seven hours, no one had commented. I just figured I'd give my $0.02 since no one else had responded.

thx - cpr
 
I own the XM-1, bought one of the first production runs two or three years ago when it first came out. I do not understand the "dual liner locks" mine is not "dual". The knife is very thick for it's weight (surprisingly light) and the N690Co seems to be very tough, holds an edge very, very well. The blade (at least) is made in Italy. The action is very smooth and can be opened by inertia. This knife, I think would be bulky in tight jeans Etc. but mine carries well in cargos/carpenters. I am sure there was a slimmer, more carry friendly, model made but the model name/number escapes me. Though I like mine very much I would not consider this a "main stream" knife.
 
I had one. It was a sturdy enough folder and the blade was pretty thick but I never could warm up to the handles. It wasn't a bad knife and actually felt good and solid. Just wasn't for me so I sold it.
 
Well i am looking forward to playing with this knife..i wanted a really tough no non-sense folder...this seems to fit the bill..lol
 
I am a fan of Ontario. (If one dares make such a politically dangerous statement), That said, If I were going to lay out that kind of Bucks for a folder, I don't think this would be the one. There are several Cold Steel folders that would come ahead of this one. This will draw some flame.;)
 
I don't see it as being worth the asking price, other than that, I am sure it is a fine knife. Cold steel, like ALL companies, has some products that are over hyped and over priced. Nobody has a patent on that.:)

If I found one at a real good price, I wouldn't hesitate to try it.
 
great knife! now this post answered my question in your other post about what knife it is you were getting that you were asking about the 690co steel..that knife has one of the smoothest actions ive ever felt including highend customs. the lockup is solid as can be with no worries of accidental closures or lock failure. it feels like a fixed blade and gives you that confidence when using. the handles are a bit thick for pocket carry but ive done it several times just not my first choice for all occasions but also because they are so thick its a lot more comfortable in your hand then most folders ive held.
like i said in your other thread Fox Knives of Italy uses the 690co steel in the higher end knives they make for themselves and the knives they produce for other companies and this is one of those knives. Made for Ontario Knife company by Fox knives. im amazed with the quality they provide and you wont be disappointed...
the liner locks are not dual..its dual titanium liners....the slimmer more carry friendly ontario knife the other poster was referring to was the ontario rat 1 which came out at the same time as the xm1 and also is a fantastic knife. it sold for $80-$90 when it came out and can be found all over the place for $20-$30 and is a ridiculously good deal. one of those knives that you dont believe its worth until youve handled one or better yet owned one.
either way for $58 for the xm1 you just purchased you got a hell of a great deal and i tell you right now there isnt a cold steel knife on the market thats as smooth as this knife. what you get from cold steel for $58 and what you just bought for $58 is a world of a difference apart. good buy!
 
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I have the Rat-1 and it is a fine folder for the price, mine carries great. The knife I was referring to was a "sister" knife to the XM-1 and was billed as "thinner and more carry friendly". I do not know if this knife was ever marketed or not. It looked a LOT like the XM-1 except thinner in the grip. A curious thing about the XM-1 is when the knife is held "blade forward" the handle wants to "squeeze" out of your hand .. but .. when the knife is held blade back (ice pick - edge forward) it feels and holds great. This knife might be OK for SD ..??
 
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