Open carry NYC: 7" fixed blade?

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knifedaddy84

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Impossible? Not at all. There is a fellow doing so along the river downtown. He's there, by bustling Battery Park, leaning up against the railing as bicyclists, joggers, stroller pushing moms and all manner of sheeple pass by with nary a second glance. The fellow's 7" blade hanging from his belt in a tactical-black kydex sheath is there in all it's glory, for all to see--in total defiance of the liberal weenie masses. How can this be?

Our hero's got a fishing rod in his hand! It's a curious phenomenon. A fishing rod somehow renders a long wicked knife invisible to the eyes of passersby. No one notices, no one cares. Oh, and when I last saw him on Monday he had a black trash bag with something big writhing in it. Maybe that's why he needs the bad blade. :eek:
 
knifedaddy84 said:
--in total defiance of the liberal weenie masses. How can this be? :eek:
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In total defiance of the blind masses! :D Most people find it hard to see what they don't expect to see. Drivers are so focused on other cars, they don't see pedestrians. People sitting in a restaurant don't see the thief walking past their table who just snagged their purse and walked on out the door.

If that knife were in a leather sheath, it might show up on the little TV screen in their heads. Maybe Kydex is too tool-like to set off their liberal weenie alarms! :p
 
I've drawn a weapon on someone with a knife once on a busy chinatown street. We looked at each other for a small moment and he then calmly put his knife away. I did the same with my toy... no one noticed...
 
Code of the NYC Street... Didn't see nuttin and if I did, I don't remember...

BTW, I think if fishing, hiking, camping or hunting, a large unconcealed blade is legal... correct me if I'm wrong.
 
One never knows what the law will really allow, but yes, in context these knives are allowed in practice anyway. I used to go hiking through Van Cortlandt Park with a fixed blade on my belt, usually something like the AF Pilot's Knife. One day I forgot to put it back in my pack when I headed home, and only remembered it at Broadway and 86th Street ... camo fatigues, backpack, knife, muddy boots, all sweated up :p
 
I far back as I can remember and still that way as far as I know - 4" blade unless you have good reason for larger such as hunting etc.
 
Actually, at 4 inches, it's illegal... it has to be under 4 inches... so technically, 1/8 of an inch short of 4 is good enough...

AND,

I believe it MUST be concealed...
 
It's the Huck Finn Syndrome. Fishermen are seen as peaceful, down to earth people who wouldn't hurt anything bigger than a worm.

I think it was Randy Wayne Wright who wrote that carrying a rod case made foreign customs officers much friendlier.
 
Sometimes, strapping a large pouch or bag to the front of the sheath disguises the length and even the appearance of the knife.
 
I think if i ever get the chance to visit the States then I'm bringing a fishing rod with :D
 
OK, here goes my first post on Bladeforums. This post caught my eye as I am a 15 year veteran police officer in NYS (not NYC though). According to what I can find in the NYS Penal Law, there is no specific length limit in NY. You are still screwed however if you choose to carry a knife in NY as the Penal Law says in section 265.01 Criminal Possession of a Weapon: "...he possesses any...dangerous knife...with intent to use the same unlawfully against another". Now, most folks don't have that intent of course but NY figured out a way to get around that silly idea. It's called a Presumption and it is just what it sounds like and in section 265.15 sub 4 it says "...the possession by any person of any...dangerouse knife...is presumptive evidence of intent to use the same unlawfully against another." So, the Legislature, in all it's wisdom decided that if you're carrying a knife, you MUST have bad intentions. Also, the law does not define "dangerous knife" so it's open to interpretation, which is always dangerous. Also, re: fishing, in NY it is the only time I know of where you can carry a switchblade! The law is strange to say the least. Luckily, police officers are exempt from all these laws but I still don't agree with it. Alot of it depends on the situation and the reasonableness of the cop on the scene, which can be scary also! I don't know if this qualifies as a Quick Reply but I'm sure someone will set me straight if it's not.
 
I thought the under 4" thing applied only to folders and that a fixed blade can legally be longer.
 
What about mounting a REEL on a nice long knife?

or

Carry one with a gut hook and real quick start puttin a worm on da hook???

:D
 
Boink said:
I thought the under 4" thing applied only to folders and that a fixed blade can legally be longer.
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I believe the language applies to any knife, fixed or folder.
 
mete said:
I far back as I can remember and still that way as far as I know - 4" blade unless you have good reason for larger such as hunting etc.
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That's it I'm strappin' the 223 swift to my shoulder and I'm goin' huntin' in Central Park, I wonder what's in season right now? :rolleyes:
 
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