Open Carrying Karambit, Scout Style

DocJD said:
Or are you just trolling again ? Please stay on topic !
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What exactly are you talking about here? Do you support the 80% concealed theory? Do you have evidence otherwise? How would the back karambit carry work for you in the midwest?

I could do it here legally (along with the carry of most an fixed blade). I would choose not to openly carry on my back in most social settings.
 
Hickory n steel said:
The 80% thing is something I read and did not make up,
And my opinion on a knife is not making things up either.

Btw you don't know it to be true that this particular lookalike is hurting them, so why don't you not say it ?
It's a logical assumption that's likely true, but unconfirmed nonetheless.

I have notgnot more to add to this topic, so I'll let it get back on track.
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"Hey officer, the 80% thing was something I read somewhere at some point. We're cool right?"

When talking about law, if you can't quote it you made it up.

Also, the mora thing is another thread altogether. Try to keep them straight.
 
Loosechange said:
Meaning no disrespect to the OP, but if you want to carry “open” and advertise.. “hey kill me first I am armed”.. thats up to him. Personally it’s no ones business if I am carrying

And 2. Karambits it’s are very dangerous tools and really are made for only one thing... to kill. And if the op doesn’t know the proper use and training with a karambit he will have a big problem. A karambit not considered a tool but a weapon here because it’s main design structure is to incapacitate and kill.

I like that statement above and Basically the word fits knives are “tools”

I know where I live that the carry laws were changed when governor Jan brewer left office... she made it so you carry any knife and any length concealed upon your body and open carry as well...

A knife here is not considered a dangerous weapon. A dangerous weapon is something our statute states as something that’s designed and specifically made to kill... I love Arizona

A knife is a “tool” but in California the police might see it different if you carry at all...especially a karmbit that’s made to hook and slice through tendon etc.. why should you have to carry they may ask, thats why you have police. Well I think that just asking for trouble not to be able to protect yourself and just hope the police are there proactively before you’re assaulted and not after you’re hospitalized or worse
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Actually they are derived from garden tools :)
 
I like karambit variations. For example, the ka-bar TDI that has a karambit shape but no ring or a tops cut 4.0/ ka-bar Snody snakecharmer, fox dart, etc, they have the karambit ring but standard blade shapes. I find them more practical that way but w/ self defense applications if needed.

As far as conceal carry vs open carry. I would prefer to have concealed tools that are never known and never needed. But god forbid they are needed, I would rather the loud ones heard before seen and the sharp ones felt before seen.

Then I will be prepared to explain why deadly force was required (with a good lawyer of course) but better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

When it comes to Cali laws, it’s not about what you need. It’s about having the freedom to carry whatever the hell you want. And for that alone, there is a reason to have them, train with them and be prepared to use them.
 
Ask the phillipene militaey what they think of the garden tool, it’s what they train with... it’s probably one of the best fighting knives with proper training made. But yes a garden tool.... I remember sharpening the edge of my shovel when was in the military... took me a year till I said screw it and took it to a machine shop to grind as edge on it lol

I don’t want to carry my shovel everywhere though
 
This law, that law, bah. Fact is explaining to detectives how you successfully defended yourself with your kerambit (or flashy OTF, or bali, or big ol fixed blade, or CCC stainless sword with "Ninja Master" etched on) are all pretty much the same thing. You now have to explain why you were not only "accidentally prepared" but "gung ho and looking for trouble". The cops barely expect anyone with a CCW to be proficient, now here's Tommy Flashblade trying to explain how they used martial arts and took down the assailant with their carry kerambit? Get something you can reasonably explain, like : "I use this 3" fixed blade to open boxes at work". I think you'll find that a lot less problematic when the chips fall where they may. Razel styles in pocket sheaths are great choices for that, plausibility where it counts. The guy who posted the wharnie had 100% the right idea.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I remember reading at some point about how much of a knife has to be visible, something about 80%+ or it's considered concealed.
I can no longer find it anywhere, just like they no longer state how fixed blades must be unconcealed while folders fully concealed.
It was a couple years since reading into it , and earlier I could not find either anywhere
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Yeah, I believe you that it was like that at some point. Laws evolve as does the perception of those laws. By the time it gets down to individual citizens interacting with police the waters are terribly murky, and it has only been relatively recently that it has gotten easy to look up ordinances without knowing how to use a Law Library.
 
JJHollowman said:
This law, that law, bah. Fact is explaining to detectives how you successfully defended yourself with your kerambit (or flashy OTF, or bali, or big ol fixed blade, or CCC stainless sword with "Ninja Master" etched on) are all pretty much the same thing. You now have to explain why you were not only "accidentally prepared" but "gung ho and looking for trouble". The cops barely expect anyone with a CCW to be proficient, now here's Tommy Flashblade trying to explain how they used martial arts and took down the assailant with their carry kerambit? Get something you can reasonably explain, like : "I use this 3" fixed blade to open boxes at work". I think you'll find that a lot less problematic when the chips fall where they may. Razel styles in pocket sheaths are great choices for that, plausibility where it counts. The guy who posted the wharnie had 100% the right idea.
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Not saying this as fact or that it will happen but I have a strong feeling (living in a weapon hating state that I do) that if you carry a knife of "mayhem" like a karambit and go get all sorts of "training" on how to use it to maximum effectiveness as many advise you to do here , the prosecutor (who you will quickly come to despise as the worst enemy of your life) will distort this information and use it against you and the court will come to the conclusion that you should have been even more cautious and attempted to avoid or escape the situation with even more effort than the average person since the training made you an efficient killer. so combining that weapon with training to use it to kill is a bad combination in my opinion.
Its a silly catch 22 in the end. you want to carry something effective but the courts in many places will find you guilty of intent for doing so. Its a silly game designed to make you just give up and say its not worth the hassle and not do it.
 
I thought that I understood the statutes, until my lawyer corrected me and told me that they were entirely serious about that five year sentence. I walked away, but much poorer and with a conviction that I can't expunge. The Man is bigger and tougher than you are. Don't believe me? I hope you never find out.
 
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