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Opinion requested on SOG X-42 Folders

Discussion in 'SOG Specialty Knives' started by Falcenberg, Mar 27, 2000.

  1. Falcenberg

    Falcenberg

    321
    Mar 29, 1999
    I saw today on the site www.preziosocoltellerie.com the SOG X-42, made with BG-42 alloy. I haven't touched one of them yet.

    What do you think of these folders? BG-42 is great steel, are they bomb-proof?

    Falcenberg

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    "Place your weapons and clothes where you can find them in the dark."

    Robert A. Heinlein

     
  2. Ron Andersen

    Ron Andersen

    Mar 23, 2000
    Hi Falcenberg,

    Great steel? Yes. Bombproof? Probably not. In Seattle, we just had the implosion of the Kingdom. Trust me, bombs can destroy just about anything.

    But back to knives, none of our BG-42 knives have yet hit the market...that should happen around late spring or early summer. So no one in the market place has yet to "play" with them (though some prototypes are have been handled at various trade shows).

    Everything you've heard about BG-42 is true. It simply is amazing! The Rc will be 62-64! We are looking forward to putting these production knives into the market at affordable prices.

    [email protected]



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  3. Falcenberg

    Falcenberg

    321
    Mar 29, 1999
    Many Thanks, [email protected]!

    Just two question:

    - will the handle be in Zytel? With a such blade does the handle deserve a thougher stuff, doesn't it? And why not a blade a little bigger (more than 4 inches)? Would in this case be a problem with the handle in Zytel?

    - can you please (ONLY TO HAVE AN IDEA HOW MUCH I HAVE TO OVERWORK) give an estimate price? E.g. $ 100 USD, $ 150 USD, $ 200 USD,
    $ 1000 USD?

    --- THIS WAS ADDED AFTER SURFING SOG KNIVES SITE: OK, I saw the price would be about $ 60 USD. Please answer only to the first question. ---

    Many Thanks Again

    Falcenberg

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    "Place your weapons and clothes where you can find them in the dark."

    Robert A. Heinlein

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  4. Ron Andersen

    Ron Andersen

    Mar 23, 2000
    Hi Falcenberg,

    I'm assuming you are writing about the X-42 AutoClip (that is the only BG-42 knife retailing around $60). A misconception about Zytel is that because it is that because it it lightweight, it is not strong. Part of my job at SOG is dealing with warranty. I can tell you that I have been very amazed at nearly no warranty claims relative to Zytel material. All this to say, you can trust the strength and durability of Zytel!

    The reason the blade length is 3.6" is that we added these X-42 AutoClips to the exsisting AutoClip series.

    Hope this helps.

    [email protected]
     
  5. Falcenberg

    Falcenberg

    321
    Mar 29, 1999
    [email protected],

    my problem is I am an Electronic Engineer, and I passed some exams about Materials, Constructions and "Constructions Science" (this is the raw translation of Italian name").

    So very often I start trying to make some calculations about how much stress something can bear. I was good to do such thing 15 years ago, now I am a little "impaired" (my work is about very different thing), and I cannot trust on my feelings and calculations.

    So I went to www.matweb.com (I hope it is right) and took the Tensile Strenght of Zytel (there are dozens of different variety), and it seems not so high.

    Just to be sure, because I am very interested to buy one or more (who knows?) X-42, I asked this concern (I had the same concern about the handles of CS Voyagers).

    As an Autoclip is expected to cost in Italy at least $ 130 USD at the shop, you can understand my concerns.

    BTW, a little bigger blade? BG-42 is a great steel, and a blade between 4 and 5 inches wuold be my daily carry, for trekking or for city.

    WOW, 62-64 HRC! It is harded than Benchmade M2! Isn't it brittle?

    Falcenberg

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    "Place your weapons and clothes where you can find them in the dark."

    Robert A. Heinlein
     
  6. Ron Andersen

    Ron Andersen

    Mar 23, 2000
    Hi Falcenberg,

    First, paying $130US for an AutoClip (even outside of the US) is far too much. It can be purchased through mail order or the internet (or even from SOG) for much, much less than that...including oversees shipping.

    I can't speak for all Zytel (I'm not sure if there are varying kinds), but ours is Kevlar reinforced, and very strong. I have seen thoroughly abused blades where the Zytel handle is in perfect condition.

    Also, we carry a lifetime guarantee. Assuming a knife is not abused, and it breaks, we will fix or replace it. Period!

    Any other questions? Please feel free to ask.

    [email protected]
     
  7. Falcenberg

    Falcenberg

    321
    Mar 29, 1999
    Just these two unanswered questions, then I'll wait until I can handle an X-42 and I'll decide how to buy it/them:

    "BTW, a little bigger blade? BG-42 is a great steel, and a blade between 4 and 5 inches wuold be my daily carry, for trekking or for city.

    WOW, 62-64 HRC! It is harded than Benchmade M2! Isn't it brittle?"

    Many Thanks for your past and future answers, Ron!

    Falcenberg
     
  8. Ron Andersen

    Ron Andersen

    Mar 23, 2000
    Hi Falcenberg,

    We won't make an AutoClip with that length and blade material, but the X-42 Recondo will have a 5" blade! Also, we have a new folding knife coming out called the Pentagon Elite 2, which will have a 5" blade. Blade material will be 440C.

    Regarding blade brittleness on the BG-42; I'm not a metalurgist, but it should not be too brittle that blade breakage should be a problem. Even though it may be hard, other elements in the steel may allow for some flexing.

    Hope this answers your questions well enough. Thanks.

    [email protected]

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  9. Falcenberg

    Falcenberg

    321
    Mar 29, 1999
    Many Thanks, Ron!

    See you when X-42s will be "buyable" (i.e., ready in shops)!!!

    Falcenberg

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    "Place your weapons and clothes where you can find them in the dark."

    Robert A. Heinlein

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