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What is your opinion on the Mad Dog Shrike? I have an intrest in buying a fighter/piercer...
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Opinions on Mad Dog Shrike...
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The Shrike is very limited. About the only thing it's good for is assassination. Creeping up behind someone and stabbing them.
It's no good for utility (because of the false edge and poor cutting edge geometry) and it's no good as a fighter (because of poor cutting geometry and lightness).
But it sure is sexy.
Tim
It's no good for utility (because of the false edge and poor cutting edge geometry) and it's no good as a fighter (because of poor cutting geometry and lightness).
But it sure is sexy.
Tim
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Why don't you just go ask MD what he thinks of it since you seem to worship him over at his new digs?
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Like CH, I kinda like to hear what the folks HERE think... I am sure we all pretty much know how MD would feel about his work. But that's not what CH is looking for...
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Au contraire! CH isn't very interested in this forum at all from the looks of his previous posts. He only seems to come over here to defend MD and promote tacticalforums.com, the new home of MD.
His posts there indicate a mania bordering on hero-worship. So I put the question to anyone who will answer it--why exactly is this guy asking lowly us about MD knives when he has already formed the opinion that MD is a do-no-wrong demigod?
Personally, I think the original post in this thread is partly a lame trolling attempt to get some more people to bad mouth MD in public.
While my opinion of MD is pretty clear, I will not bother to again sink to the level of depravity really needed to get to the heart of the matter about what that so-called "tactical knifemaker" is really all about. Such has been well-documented elsewhere in volumes that speak for themselves.
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Never confuse movement with action.
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Like CH, I kinda like to hear what the folks HERE think... I am sure we all pretty much know how MD would feel about his work. But that's not what CH is looking for...
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Au contraire! CH isn't very interested in this forum at all from the looks of his previous posts. He only seems to come over here to defend MD and promote tacticalforums.com, the new home of MD.
His posts there indicate a mania bordering on hero-worship. So I put the question to anyone who will answer it--why exactly is this guy asking lowly us about MD knives when he has already formed the opinion that MD is a do-no-wrong demigod?
Personally, I think the original post in this thread is partly a lame trolling attempt to get some more people to bad mouth MD in public.
While my opinion of MD is pretty clear, I will not bother to again sink to the level of depravity really needed to get to the heart of the matter about what that so-called "tactical knifemaker" is really all about. Such has been well-documented elsewhere in volumes that speak for themselves.
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Never confuse movement with action.
Ernest Hemingway
There are those of us that appreciate input from several areas and then we decide what is good input and what is worthless opinion. Some people just don't seem to understand there is something to learn from all sources. Those people won't get any smarter, they'll just continue to support what they have already decided. Their loss.
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot. No opinion of the Shrike regarding combat or utility uses.
However, from what I have heard about other models in the line, if one handles it with kid gloves maybe it will spread butter in a tactical fashion over some hostile English muffins without failure.
Want a "piercer?" Buy yourself a good chef's quality ice pick and save yourself an tidy sum of better spent money.
So what have you all been "learning" sniffing at the ___ of the Dog lately anyway?
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However, from what I have heard about other models in the line, if one handles it with kid gloves maybe it will spread butter in a tactical fashion over some hostile English muffins without failure.
Want a "piercer?" Buy yourself a good chef's quality ice pick and save yourself an tidy sum of better spent money.
So what have you all been "learning" sniffing at the ___ of the Dog lately anyway?
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Never confuse movement with action.
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I don't know about that Mark. Everyone should own a really good icepick. That alone was well worth the price of admission today.
You didn't even get threatened, zapped, harassed, or deleted for crossing my path.
I have learned all I want to know about MD, from MD himself. That I no longer appreciate him to the extent that I *should* irks some people something fierce. I don't lose any sleep over that at all.
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You didn't even get threatened, zapped, harassed, or deleted for crossing my path.
I have learned all I want to know about MD, from MD himself. That I no longer appreciate him to the extent that I *should* irks some people something fierce. I don't lose any sleep over that at all.
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I'm here to learn about knives, enjoy some of the humor of posters (Cougar, you have got one heck of an imagination and sense of humor!!) and to see if I can offer something to other forum members. I am doing none of the above in this thread, so good bye. Yours for the last word, Oregon.
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QUOTH THE NEW MODERATOR:
I think you jumped all over crowinhorse pretty unfairly and made assumptions that are not validated.
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You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Mine is based on reading substantially all of CH's posts at three venues. If it is unfair to question his motivations, or make assumptions about him based on substantial observation I guess I am guilty as charged.
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By his coming on and asking a question I take his post and his thread as just that. There is nothing hidden, take it at face value.
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If only there had been much of this sentiment present in *all* of the knife forums in the past six months maybe we'd all get along better, but it's naivete itself to think that no one is coming over here from "there" without an agenda of some kind. Everyone has an agenda of one sort or another.
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Because he posts at tacticalforums.com is he the enemy of bladeforums, this is rediculous and this is what you have made him out to sound like. [sic]
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You said that, I didn't. I distinctly remember asking why he thought he needed our opinion when he had already formed one and gets his info on MD right from the Dog's mouth to his ear. No broader accusation was made. If anything I am curious about his narrow topical interests.
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So what if he promotes tacticalforums, and so what if he defends Mad Dog.[sic] He doesn't flame anyone and he has a pleasant forum demeaner.[sic]
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And so what if I disparage TF and make snide remarks about MD? Am I now evil incarnate? You don't even know of me before today. I used to have a pretty sweet disposition here too, but not recently, because of goings on that partially resulted in birth of TF, or as I like to call it, "The Heart of Darkness" because of the obvious parallels to Kurtz in one of TF's central "characters".
If you want to ban me just let me know. I do not believe I have said anything peculiarly harsh in comparison to what has been going on all over the general forum lately. I really dig all of the love we have shown to the KF refugees around here.
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I think it is unfortunate that you would take a thread that can be a good information thread for those who are considering buying Shrike's [sic] to see what others [sic] have experienced with them and turning it into a flame war between you and crowinghorse.
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I am not trying to flame anyone. I asked a simple question. Responded to the response. I haven't called into question anyone's lineage or intelligence, just their ability to judge character.
If I must, I apologize to CH for questioning him at all. I have some "issues" about taking a lot of different things on faith or at face value with so many, many, people being so duplicitous of late.
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Never confuse movement with action.
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I think you jumped all over crowinhorse pretty unfairly and made assumptions that are not validated.
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You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Mine is based on reading substantially all of CH's posts at three venues. If it is unfair to question his motivations, or make assumptions about him based on substantial observation I guess I am guilty as charged.
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By his coming on and asking a question I take his post and his thread as just that. There is nothing hidden, take it at face value.
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If only there had been much of this sentiment present in *all* of the knife forums in the past six months maybe we'd all get along better, but it's naivete itself to think that no one is coming over here from "there" without an agenda of some kind. Everyone has an agenda of one sort or another.
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Because he posts at tacticalforums.com is he the enemy of bladeforums, this is rediculous and this is what you have made him out to sound like. [sic]
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You said that, I didn't. I distinctly remember asking why he thought he needed our opinion when he had already formed one and gets his info on MD right from the Dog's mouth to his ear. No broader accusation was made. If anything I am curious about his narrow topical interests.
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So what if he promotes tacticalforums, and so what if he defends Mad Dog.[sic] He doesn't flame anyone and he has a pleasant forum demeaner.[sic]
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And so what if I disparage TF and make snide remarks about MD? Am I now evil incarnate? You don't even know of me before today. I used to have a pretty sweet disposition here too, but not recently, because of goings on that partially resulted in birth of TF, or as I like to call it, "The Heart of Darkness" because of the obvious parallels to Kurtz in one of TF's central "characters".
If you want to ban me just let me know. I do not believe I have said anything peculiarly harsh in comparison to what has been going on all over the general forum lately. I really dig all of the love we have shown to the KF refugees around here.
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I think it is unfortunate that you would take a thread that can be a good information thread for those who are considering buying Shrike's [sic] to see what others [sic] have experienced with them and turning it into a flame war between you and crowinghorse.
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I am not trying to flame anyone. I asked a simple question. Responded to the response. I haven't called into question anyone's lineage or intelligence, just their ability to judge character.
If I must, I apologize to CH for questioning him at all. I have some "issues" about taking a lot of different things on faith or at face value with so many, many, people being so duplicitous of late.
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OK Let's "assume" for the moment that Horse's post was a legitimate question to get our members thoughts and opinions on a MD Shrike.
What ever you believe, the old kill 'em with kindness rule always works pretty well.
Now Horse; if you are just here to stir things up, or to just keep bringing up MD topics when you have full access to MD's very own forum, where your question would most likely get a better response, then please move on. If not accept my apology for the insinuation however your very post is contradictory to your actions on TF.
Now on TF you say you have already ordered one, whereas above you state
If you have already bought one or already have it on order why did you make the above statement baiting members into helping you make decision you have already made?
Just curious as I would really like all the MD crap to go quitely into the night......
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What ever you believe, the old kill 'em with kindness rule always works pretty well.
Now Horse; if you are just here to stir things up, or to just keep bringing up MD topics when you have full access to MD's very own forum, where your question would most likely get a better response, then please move on. If not accept my apology for the insinuation however your very post is contradictory to your actions on TF.
Now on TF you say you have already ordered one, whereas above you state
If you have already bought one or already have it on order why did you make the above statement baiting members into helping you make decision you have already made?
Just curious as I would really like all the MD crap to go quitely into the night......
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I woke up this morning hoping someone would tell me of their past experiances with the knife. I guess I did not get what I came for. When I saw 14 posts on my question, I was happy as a horse in a hay field. Why does everything turn into an argument? I am only here to learn. I have just started carrying and using knives in daily life and will soon be in the military. Knives are a way of life in the Infantry, and I have been asking, IMHO, reasonable questions. I have never "flamed" anyone. I like Mad Dog knives, in fact, I also like TOPS knives too. and I like Randall's. I like Gerbers (some of them- my Dad is a big Gerber fan
) I also like SOG. (No matter what anyone says, I like the SEAL 2K!-You can't kill it!) I came here to listen and learn and all I have accomplished is starting another "flame war" that I have not been in. Yes, I just ordered a Shrike. I had an ATAK on order, but was able to buy one from another source and so I changed my preorder to a Shrike. I find that if I ask people their opinions about "possibly" purchasing a knife, I will get honesty. If I tell them, especially here, that I have boughten a Mad Dog, people flame me and my knife...
I don't know how to ask questions about Mad DOg's here...I don't know the past relationships anyone has with the man (Mad DOg) himself. I don't know him and as far as I am concerned, he is a good knife maker...So is Mission, so is SOG, so is Gerber...the list is endless. I have not had the chance to handle a Busse (had to put that in there...keep all the Busse fans happy
) I do not have the money right now to purchase every new "SEAL" knife or even every old "SEAL" knife. My brother, my father and myself use our knives the way they were intended...digging holes, gutting deer, cutting branches...
My original idea was to see what exactly people use their Shrikes for...I guess I did not accomplish that...I am sorry.
If you would like me to repost I will...
I appologize to Oregon Duck...I had no intention of starting anything.
Horse
I think I am being made out to be a "Mad Dog" defender. That is ok. I have yet to see his knife fail. Of course, I have also yet to see my SEAL 2K fail and that knife gets bassed all the time. I think it is odd how it is ok to bash one knife or knife maker but another is considered God...I don't consider Mad Dog a God...the Lord Jesus Christ and His Father are my God...
I hope you will all understand I am here to learn and listen, not start wars. I have yet to see a TOPS knife fail. If it would make others happy, I could write on that for a change instead of Mad Dog. I am in my "Mad DOg" phase of knives right now. I went through my "COld Steel" and "SOG" phase last summer and "TOPS" was soon after that. Just because I am in my "MAD DOG" phase does not mean I am trying to raise hell about everything that has transpired this last month...If someone were to bad mouth TOPS knives, I would come to their defense as well. TOPS is excellent. Perfect customer service, well made, sharp knives. I shaved with my Steel Eagle...my fiance did not like it, but I did...
Just because I come here to post on Mad Dog doesn't mean I will never find fault with him. If I do, I will post it. If it makes you feel better, I have a problem waiting six to seven months for a knife. I get antsy and anxious and that is a long time. Of course, it is worth it to me. To others, not. I would wait years for a Randall if I had the time. That is my next purchase...a Randall #2 or #14 attack. What do you think of those knives?
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I don't know how to ask questions about Mad DOg's here...I don't know the past relationships anyone has with the man (Mad DOg) himself. I don't know him and as far as I am concerned, he is a good knife maker...So is Mission, so is SOG, so is Gerber...the list is endless. I have not had the chance to handle a Busse (had to put that in there...keep all the Busse fans happy
My original idea was to see what exactly people use their Shrikes for...I guess I did not accomplish that...I am sorry.
If you would like me to repost I will...
I appologize to Oregon Duck...I had no intention of starting anything.
Horse
I think I am being made out to be a "Mad Dog" defender. That is ok. I have yet to see his knife fail. Of course, I have also yet to see my SEAL 2K fail and that knife gets bassed all the time. I think it is odd how it is ok to bash one knife or knife maker but another is considered God...I don't consider Mad Dog a God...the Lord Jesus Christ and His Father are my God...
I hope you will all understand I am here to learn and listen, not start wars. I have yet to see a TOPS knife fail. If it would make others happy, I could write on that for a change instead of Mad Dog. I am in my "Mad DOg" phase of knives right now. I went through my "COld Steel" and "SOG" phase last summer and "TOPS" was soon after that. Just because I am in my "MAD DOG" phase does not mean I am trying to raise hell about everything that has transpired this last month...If someone were to bad mouth TOPS knives, I would come to their defense as well. TOPS is excellent. Perfect customer service, well made, sharp knives. I shaved with my Steel Eagle...my fiance did not like it, but I did...
Just because I come here to post on Mad Dog doesn't mean I will never find fault with him. If I do, I will post it. If it makes you feel better, I have a problem waiting six to seven months for a knife. I get antsy and anxious and that is a long time. Of course, it is worth it to me. To others, not. I would wait years for a Randall if I had the time. That is my next purchase...a Randall #2 or #14 attack. What do you think of those knives?
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What is your honest opinion of the Mad Dog Shrike? I have ordered one and hope it will meet my expectations. What, in your opinion, is it good for? and what is it bad for? Thanks...
Please no more flames...my ears are on fire!
Horse
Please no more flames...my ears are on fire!
Horse
Mike,
Number one, happy birthday!
In another thread on TF Horse states he had changed his mind twice on an order from Earl, the last time changing it to a Shrike. Maybe he is getting cold feet on his Shrike order, and is thinking about changing it yet again. If so, valid input from others here would help him. If he is over here stirring up trouble, I agree, shame on him.
I am not aligning myself with any particular opinion or persons. I like my Mad Dogs, and they serve my purpose for them. I like my Sebenza, I like my Dozier New York Special, I like my Spyderco FB1, etc. I learned about each of these knives from the two forums. I like both forums. I will continue to visit both forums until I get the feeling I'm not wanted. Obviously there are those of us that aren't that opened minded. Hopefully they will not become the majority.
Good luck to all moderators. You need it.
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Number one, happy birthday!
In another thread on TF Horse states he had changed his mind twice on an order from Earl, the last time changing it to a Shrike. Maybe he is getting cold feet on his Shrike order, and is thinking about changing it yet again. If so, valid input from others here would help him. If he is over here stirring up trouble, I agree, shame on him.
I am not aligning myself with any particular opinion or persons. I like my Mad Dogs, and they serve my purpose for them. I like my Sebenza, I like my Dozier New York Special, I like my Spyderco FB1, etc. I learned about each of these knives from the two forums. I like both forums. I will continue to visit both forums until I get the feeling I'm not wanted. Obviously there are those of us that aren't that opened minded. Hopefully they will not become the majority.
Good luck to all moderators. You need it.
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Strider
LMAO...
Horse
Thankyou...at least one person can tell me something about the knife and its uses.
I mean this honestly too...
warning: This is not a flame. Any thoughts of this, or any other of my posts being a flame is totally untrue. I am here to observe, learn, post, and love. Thanks.
(I think I found my new signature
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LMAO...
Horse
Thankyou...at least one person can tell me something about the knife and its uses.
I mean this honestly too...
warning: This is not a flame. Any thoughts of this, or any other of my posts being a flame is totally untrue. I am here to observe, learn, post, and love. Thanks.
(I think I found my new signature