Opinions on new EDC

sherlockbonez said:
It's probably because you aren't used to them. I open/ close amd re-clip my spyderco at work all the time with gloves on, never had a problem.
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With gloves on I could do it no problem. I wouldn't be worried about cutting all of my fingers that I have to put in the way of the blade. While I CAN close it one handed it is NOT easy, and its also not easy to close it two handed. Its not that I'm not used to them. Ever since I closed my first lockback (probably when I was 10) I thought that it was a dangerous, awkward, and difficult way to close a knife. The biggest problem with it is that it takes a large amount of force to disengage the lock and then when the blade falls its difficult to control how much it rotates and is therefore likely to hit your fingers that you were required to put in the way.

darthsoaker said:
I don't get why people whine so much about how hard it is to close lockbacks. :confused:

I mean, while not as easy to use as, say the Axis lock, its just as easy to close as a liner lock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3HkTY7rLU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTem-bYNU
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I think that the axis lock is incredible and also fairly easy to use, but it also takes some getting used to, its not as intuitive as it looks IMO. I don't think its even close to as easy to close as a liner lock. I'm a righty and I figured out how to close my right handed liner lock left (one) handed fairly quickly and I doubt I could close a lockback left handed, in fact, I wouldn't try because of the danger of cutting myself. Its a poor design when compared to the axis lock and the liner lock. I'll have to watch the youtube videos when I get home, work blocks them :rolleyes: But I've seen one where a guy closes the spydies pretty quick and i still don't know how that works. Its not that I'm not used to them, its that its a really hard lock to close, and lots of people think so,

Axis lock pros:
very strong
fully ambidextrous one hand close
fairly easy to figure out
safe (closing)

cons:
not as intuitive as it looks

liner/frame lock pros:
easy one hand close
fairly strong if made correctly
fairly safe (closing)

cons:
not fully abidextrous
not as easy to figure out

lockback pros:
fully ambidextrous
strong

lockback cons:
unsafe (closing)
hard to figure out
hard to close one handed or otherwise

my $.02
 
Thats fine, whatever floats your boat.

I'm just saying that I, fairly normal to small hands, with average dexterity in my hands, can close a mid-spine lockback one handed fairly easily, with either hand.

I'd prefer an axis lock, but a lock back for me is pretty much A-OK.

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therulebookman said:
Axis lock pros:
very strong
fully ambidextrous one hand close
fairly easy to figure out
safe (closing)

cons:
not as intuitive as it looks

liner/frame lock pros:
easy one hand close
fairly strong if made correctly
fairly safe (closing)

cons:
not fully abidextrous
not as easy to figure out

lockback pros:
fully ambidextrous
strong

lockback cons:
unsafe (closing)
hard to figure out
hard to close one handed or otherwise

my $.02
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what do you mean hard to figure out, a lockback is the most recognizeable retard proof method there is
 
I think the Delica is easier to open and close than the Native, ergonomics wise, but I haven't used the new Delica 4's. A FRN Calypso would also be a possibility, if you value cutting ability over prying.

I was going to suggest the Spydie dragonfly, but the clip rides a bit high.

I find the axis lock pretty intuitive, and just about the easiest thing to close, since the lock itself is near your index finger and thumb, when you pull them away from the blade path.
 
I find liner and framelocks pretty difficult to close sometimes. My Kershaw Storm and Boker Wharcom both took me a while to get used to and still take some effort for me to close one handed, and my Leek took some getting used to also. My Endura and Byrd Cara Cara both close one handed very easily for me. What I do is grip the handle with my thumb and middle finger to release the lock and have my index finger on the opening hole and swing it down with that finger after pushing the lock release. Works very easily, I can close it almost as fast as I open it with my thumb. My Wharcom on the other hand I still have to try a couple of times sometimes to get it closed using one hand.
 
Went through this myself, recently right now my EDC rotation is my Salsa or Scorpius and just ordered a Trance to soon be part of the mix. All are available for under $60, especially the Trance.
 
pooperpoopypoop said:
what do you mean hard to figure out, a lockback is the most recognizeable retard proof method there is
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Ok, maybe that wasn't fair, but what I meant was that if you had never seen one before could you figure out how to do it. I don't think its that easy to figure out, but neither is a liner lock for most people I guess. But I figured the liner lock out way faster than the lockback.

The fact that you need a video of how to close it one handed proves that its not that easy to figure out how to do. None of the locks described are second nature kind of easy, but I stand by the fact that you have to use more force and effort to close a lockback than a liner.

however, if someone wanted to give me, say...an endura wave, or zdp endura, or any other spydie for that matter, in order to win me over to the dark side. I would be more than happy to take the knife off your hands. :D
 
therulebookman said:
I find the locks on [lockback] Spydercos incredibly hard to close one handed. I fiddled with one at Blade and I was immediately turned off and stopped considering them. the wave feature was cool, but the lock was terrible, and IMO dangerous.
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Now that I've been introduced to truly sharp knives, I'm always concerned about the blade swinging down a but too much and slicing my finger when unlocking a lockback one-handed.
 
The choil should catch your index finger, and you wouldn't cut yourself. Watch that video, I do it the exact same way. No teaching is required.
 
Man, you guys really know how to over complicate closing a knife. :p I'll show you three easy to learn one handed closing methods.

First, press the release and close against your leg or anything else around you that's sturdy:

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Second, on most Spyderco's this works but some other lockbacks it won't. Put your finger where the choil or kick will hit it. Give the knife a downward flick and press the release when you do so, making the blade close halfway and stop against your finger. Move your fingers out of the way and close with your index finger:

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Then the method I use. Grip with middle finger and thumb to press the release and put the index finger in the opening hole and swing it shut, making sure your fingers get out of the way. Very easy and intuitive...for me at least.

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NeedleRemorse said:
Wow, before I got to the end I was thinking of the Mini-Grip, but the Native is also a great choice! I'd have a hard time choosing between the two of them. The mini-Grip can be taken apart, it's thicker for better ergonomics, and it has (in my opinion) a nicer lock. That said, the Native is simple, also has a great lock, has better blade geometry, and is also a very high quality knife.

You seem to prefer keeping it slim, so go with the Native. It's $40 right at Wal*Mart.

I find that mini-Grips are easier to manipulate than Natives because you can get a better purchase on the handle and clip to open and close the knife, and the axis lock makes one-handed opening and closing a breeze if you hold the lock down and flip the blade out. Either way, you won't go wrong.
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I have the 556 in D2 and it's my undisputed edc. I think the axis lock is built well and holds up as well as any lock can be expected to. However, you can not disassemble this knife without voiding the warranty.

With that said, the axis lock makes for a pretty open design that cleans out well with a blast of air or a dip under the tap.
 
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