Option for Something Like a CRK Sebenza...But With a Flipper?

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SO, I've been getting more and more into the knife world, and I'm developing a wishlist of sorts. I really would like a Sebenza at some point, though I've realized lately that I really, really love flippers. I watched a Sebenza review today that suggested that, with a flipper, that particular knife would be even better.

So, considering price, quality and general aesthetics, is there anything out there similar to a Sebenza but that offers a flipper? I'm open to any suggestions, ideas or thoughts! I know I might be opening a can of worms here, but hopefully nothing gets heated or anything.

Looking forward to hearing from you all! :thumbup:
 
I second the AVO, love mine. Lionsteel TRE might be worth a look too.
 
I second the AVO, love mine. Lionsteel TRE might be worth a look too.

One vote for Lionsteel which will certainly be my next purchase :

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I think sebenza is a tool rather than flipppers as toys, the open speed and how smooth of flippers are just attractive of toys, if you really want to use a knife you can choose sebenza.
 
If you want a Large Sebenza, the Southard AVO is hard to beat, but also expensive and hard to obtain.
If you want a Small Sebenza, my current 2 favorites are the LionSteel TRE G10 and Brous Bionic 2.0

I EDC all 3 of these knives and like them all!
 
I think sebenza is a tool rather than flipppers as toys, the open speed and how smooth of flippers are just attractive of toys, if you really want to use a knife you can choose sebenza.

Wouldn't go that far...

I'd call flippers a luxury. Is it nice to have one? Yeah. Is it necessary? Absolutely not.
 
Another vote for the Southard AVO. I bought it Jan1; have carried it since. Sebbies and Zaan are in the safe.
The AVO is a bit smaller than the large Sebbie, and fits my hand perfectly. Grip width is the same.


You would LOVE it also...
Sonnydaze
 
Hey, another Vermonter! Don't see many of us around here.

I've owned an Avo, and I'm sure a lot of the other suggestions like the TRE are great knives, but Chris Reeve knives are very unique in terms of feel. Having owned an Avo and Sebbie simultaneously I can't tell you that aside from aesthetics and materials they're not very similar. If you just want a knife with ti slabs and a frame lock there are a ton of options out there...if you want something with a flipper that comes close to replicating the essence of a Sebenza you'll have to look harder.
I suggest taking a look at Gareth Bull. I've got a Gareth Bull Miura and it's got the most Sebenza-like action of any knife I've owned or handled. Granted, it's a top flipper, but it has that distinctive buttery hydraulic action that Sebenzas are known for.
There's another South African maker, Marthinus van Wyck (probly butchered the name) who just started building knives that look exactly like flipper Sebenzas, but I don't know about the "action" or "feel" of his knives, or what his output is like.
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Shirogorov. The price tag is higher, but hey you do get what you pay for. The attention to detail on the Shirogorovs are as good if not better than Reeves. All edges are chamfered and all nooks and crannies are finished.

Avo is good, but imo it's not Sebenza level of fit and finish, but it's only a few chamfers shy. The Tolk however is a step above the Avo and is a much better comparison to Reeves. You can tell that Brad paid more attention to the Tolks than Avos. Nothing against Brad, but he admitted himself that he was trying to figure out his first midtech runs and he honed it closer to perfection with the Tolks.
 
I think sebenza is a tool rather than flipppers as toys, the open speed and how smooth of flippers are just attractive of toys, if you really want to use a knife you can choose sebenza.

This.

I find it hilarious when people say "I want a sebenza, but like.....with a flipper, ya know?" Oh so you want an entirely different knife? Ok.

They fail to realize that the sebenza is built how it's built for a reason and everything on it, incuding the thumb stud opening, must be present or the knife and it's purpose change to something else entirely from what it was originally designed to be. It's like asking for a waved Opinel or an RJ Martin with a nail nick.
 
This.

I find it hilarious when people say "I want a sebenza, but like.....with a flipper, ya know?" Oh so you want an entirely different knife? Ok.

They fail to realize that the sebenza is built how it's built for a reason and everything on it, incuding the thumb stud opening, must be present or the knife and it's purpose change to something else entirely from what it was originally designed to be. It's like asking for a waved Opinel or an RJ Martin with a nail nick.

Hey Krissig,
Apologies. I'm still new to the forum and getting used to posting. I didn't mean to post a dumb topic, I think I'm still learning what constitutes a good point for discussion, so I'm sorry :o

I did want to clarify some things about my post, though. First, I was worried that I would get some negative reactions to my affection for flippers. I just happen to prefer that method of deployment. Ever since my first ZT four years ago this has been the case. I've never felt that any of my zero tolerance flippers were toys, and I've enjoyed using them very much.

Secondly, I'm interested in your confusion about people looking for similar knives with different features. I wasn't trying to imply that I want a Sebenza with a flipper because I know that they don't have flippers. Instead, I was trying to express my interest in a knife with similar aesthetics, materials and build quality but that fit who I am as a knife enthusiast. A zero tolerance 0560 has a flipper and the 0550 does not, though I would have a hard time suggesting that they are entirely different knives as they share many similarities as well. Since I started getting into knives, this has been how I've grown and how my tastes have changed: I get a knife, I use it and think about what I like and what I would change, and then my next knife has the elements that I enjoyed about the last one, but also has different elements than those that I didn't like. It's kind of an evolution of tastes. I've appreciated many of the recommendations that people have made, and can certainly see the similarities between them and a Sebenza. No one, of course, recommended me a chef's knife or an opinel because those knives aren't similar to a Sebenza.

If someone posted that they would like something like a Spyderco Dragonfly but a little bigger, I would hope that members of this forum would suggest a Delica or Endura rather than suggesting that Dragonflies are just as long as they are, and that the person's search was hopeless. I very much enjoy the experience of searching for knives that are a good fit for me, and a large part of that search consists of trying to combine different elements into one knife, and trying to find that knife.

Also, I can't help thinking about the Lion Steel TRE in response to your comment about the thumb stud on the Sebenza needing to be present "or the knife and its purpose change". Surely some knives, like the TRE, are offered with or without certain features. I'm not sure that I understand how a flipper vs thumbstud change the purpose of a knife. Of course the knife itself changes, because now it has a flipper. Ultimately, I still plan to use my knives for cutting :)

I've also noticed that Sebenzas are offered in different styles (the 21 vs the 25) and in different sizes. For sure, a 21 vs a 25 or a small vs a large Sebenza are different knives, though they are of course all similar to one another.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify my reasons for my original post. I didn't mean to suggest anything noob-ish or dumb, I was just hoping for some help in finding a nice knife down the road that will be a good fit for me. Thanks, everyone, for your great suggestions! I'm excited to start doing all my research now :thumbup:
 
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