Option for Something Like a CRK Sebenza...But With a Flipper?

I never intended my post to be aimed specifically at you, I know you weren't actually looking for a "sebenza with a flipper". No need to write a novel in response.
 
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OP asked for alternatives to a Sebenza that have a flipper, not our opinions on whether or not flippers are "toys".

I'll go ahead and suggest the Lionsteel TRE or perhaps the Reate Hills.
 
No hard feelings Krissig, just wanted to clarify what I was looking for and my tastes :)

Just hoping for some friendly knife discussion, that's all! Didn't mean for the long response to come off as aggressive.

Thanks Nick. Do you have personal experience with the TRE or the Reate? I'm curious about a liong mah warrior 1 made by Reate.
 
Small Sebenza with a flipper = LionSteel TRE...but get the G10 version and save $100 and have better grip and a fixed flipper.
Large Sebenza with a flipper = Reate Hills or ZT 0562CF

I'm not saying any of these knives are equal to the Sebenza in fit, finish or quality (although the Reate might be darn close), they're just great feeling, great flipping blades for that flippin' urge. You can get any of these for around a $200 price point. If you want to save even more money on a small, high quality feeling flipper, take a look at the S30V CF Skylines at Blade HQ.

I own and use all these blades, along with a small Sebenza 21. I can't speak for the Warrior 1 but all of Reate's offerings are top notch for quality, I only question the price they hit the market at. You also might want to look at the Reate Remedy.

Kizer makes some surprisingly awesome flippers in the $100 to $200 price range too. Lot's of value in the Kizer line.
 
I'm quite bemused right now. I was looking for something sebenza like with a flipper, this was while researching the g10 tre and this thread popped up.

Anyone who can throw up a photo of the g10 tre next to a small sebenza I would be forever thankful!

PS kizer are excellent, they he incredible grinds out of the box really slicey. Some of the ones with smooth scales are very upper though!
 
Krissig12 said:
This.

I find it hilarious when people say "I want a sebenza, but like.....with a flipper, ya know?" Oh so you want an entirely different knife? Ok.

They fail to realize that the sebenza is built how it's built for a reason and everything on it, incuding the thumb stud opening, must be present or the knife and it's purpose change to something else entirely from what it was originally designed to be. It's like asking for a waved Opinel or an RJ Martin with a nail nick.
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How is this helpful or on topic in any way?
 
Someone noted that the two knives aren't alike yet the op and myself potentially are looking for the same thing. A sebenza like flipper. I thought my comment made it obvious? The tre g10 seems to fit nicely in that role. I checked out oal, weight blade size and they are in fact a out the same dimensions. Maybe a little better purchase on the tre due to how skinny the small sebenzas scales are.
 
Krissig12 said:
This.

I find it hilarious when people say "I want a sebenza, but like.....with a flipper, ya know?" Oh so you want an entirely different knife? Ok.

They fail to realize that the sebenza is built how it's built for a reason and everything on it, incuding the thumb stud opening, must be present or the knife and it's purpose change to something else entirely from what it was originally designed to be. It's like asking for a waved Opinel or an RJ Martin with a nail nick.
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Why don't you go play with your Sebenza dude. Your not helping anyone in here. You CRK fan boys are awesome lol.
 
VermontEdge said:
Hey Krissig,
Apologies. I'm still new to the forum and getting used to posting. I didn't mean to post a dumb topic, I think I'm still learning what constitutes a good point for discussion, so I'm sorry :o

I did want to clarify some things about my post, though. First, I was worried that I would get some negative reactions to my affection for flippers. I just happen to prefer that method of deployment. Ever since my first ZT four years ago this has been the case. I've never felt that any of my zero tolerance flippers were toys, and I've enjoyed using them very much.

Secondly, I'm interested in your confusion about people looking for similar knives with different features. I wasn't trying to imply that I want a Sebenza with a flipper because I know that they don't have flippers. Instead, I was trying to express my interest in a knife with similar aesthetics, materials and build quality but that fit who I am as a knife enthusiast. A zero tolerance 0560 has a flipper and the 0550 does not, though I would have a hard time suggesting that they are entirely different knives as they share many similarities as well. Since I started getting into knives, this has been how I've grown and how my tastes have changed: I get a knife, I use it and think about what I like and what I would change, and then my next knife has the elements that I enjoyed about the last one, but also has different elements than those that I didn't like. It's kind of an evolution of tastes. I've appreciated many of the recommendations that people have made, and can certainly see the similarities between them and a Sebenza. No one, of course, recommended me a chef's knife or an opinel because those knives aren't similar to a Sebenza.

If someone posted that they would like something like a Spyderco Dragonfly but a little bigger, I would hope that members of this forum would suggest a Delica or Endura rather than suggesting that Dragonflies are just as long as they are, and that the person's search was hopeless. I very much enjoy the experience of searching for knives that are a good fit for me, and a large part of that search consists of trying to combine different elements into one knife, and trying to find that knife.

Also, I can't help thinking about the Lion Steel TRE in response to your comment about the thumb stud on the Sebenza needing to be present "or the knife and its purpose change". Surely some knives, like the TRE, are offered with or without certain features. I'm not sure that I understand how a flipper vs thumbstud change the purpose of a knife. Of course the knife itself changes, because now it has a flipper. Ultimately, I still plan to use my knives for cutting :)

I've also noticed that Sebenzas are offered in different styles (the 21 vs the 25) and in different sizes. For sure, a 21 vs a 25 or a small vs a large Sebenza are different knives, though they are of course all similar to one another.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify my reasons for my original post. I didn't mean to suggest anything noob-ish or dumb, I was just hoping for some help in finding a nice knife down the road that will be a good fit for me. Thanks, everyone, for your great suggestions! I'm excited to start doing all my research now :thumbup:
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Well written response man.
 
Just to support the OP - I would really like a little bit bigger dragonfly :)

I have browsed a lot bout Reate knives (specifically the Hills model) - they look like a great value, but in one video the owner tried to order all replaceable parts from Reate (located in China) and only managed to get part of them. So, at least in a long run, the Reate could be hard to maintain (in the case that parts replacement would be necessary) or one may need to send the knife to China for that. Now relevant that is every one needs to decide. Still - I think the Reate Hills looks awesome :)
 
There are several knives that do come to mind for my on this, but most of them have already been mentioned here: Lionsteel TRE (I would go for the Ti version myself), Wilson Combat Eagle, Shirogorov...SHIROGOROV (if you can afford the jump in price, DO IT), Freeman Outdoor 451 (Aluminum handles instead of Ti, but it is said to have an excellently sturdy construction without being overbuilt and blocky), Laconico Jasmine or Bear, and honestly and XM-18 is a better option than most people think (though maybe a little thick behind the edge until you lean it out).

There are a ton of toptions that build on similar ideas as the Sebenza, but use largely different methods in construction, or perhaps are made to be a little more "trendy" than the Sebenza is.

If you don't want a flipper, but simply want something that is built to a high standard of quality like the Sebenza, you can also look at Rockstead. Most of the people I know who have had complaints about CRK have fallen in love with Rockstead, since they use the same or greater insane standards of quality in porduction, but prioritize edge retention and shear cutting ability over sharpenability, which is what CRK tends to do.
If you want a knife that will cut for literally a year and not get dull, get a Rockstead. If you want a knife that can be sharpened in the field without any trouble, get a Sebenza. Either way, you will be getting a knife that will last you a lifetime.
Same can be said of Shirogorov if you want a flipper, though the steels they use vary, and the higher-end steels like M390 and S90V can run you quite a large sum of money to get in certain models.

And don't think that your topic was stupid or anything, because it's not. Some people will react this way to just about every topic suggested on here. It's just a reality of having so many people in the same place who are so invested in this hobby, and who are all given nearly complete anonymity. Nothing really all that wrong with it frankly, since it's still kept rather tame here. Just don't worry about offending people that much, because someone will always get offended if enough people look at something long enough. It's better to just let them be offended and move on than to give them recognition or to always try and defend yourself against someone who doesn't want to listen.
Not to say you shouldn't defend yourself at all, and how you did it in your long response is very well-thought-out and nicely constructed. Definitely the right way to handle it. If someone is being unreasonable or not making sense and just starts making accusations for no real reason or purpose, they will be taken care of, trust us ;)

Anyway, this is a topic that has been brought up a couple of times before, so you might also search through the forums (though the search tool can be a little odd if you're not used to using it) to see what you can find in terms of answers that other people have already given to this question.

Hope some of that helped...somewhere in that big mess of writing :D
 
hhmoore said:
Something like this, perhaps?




A bargain, at half the price.
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I have one of those myself. That carson was my first thought when I saw the title. You can get these super cheap these days. Ive seen them as low as $168 shipped. I payed $230 and I still feel like I stole it.

Inspiribomb said:
Correction, what is this?
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Its a Boil by carson tech labs. It is also sold under the real steel name as a megladon.
 
Almost forgot about the AGR Ti Gentlemen's Framelock. OP (Original Poster) almost forgot to say welcome btw and nice thread!

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