Ortgies Deutche Werke Pistole 7.65

[markksr]

Made in Germany in the 1920's to 1930's
7.65/.32 cal

 

[TWBryan]

I always thought that the one looked neat,good lines. Something that size in 9mm would be a must-buy. Good score. tu

 

[ferguson]

I love old steel. Shiny or blued, slice or boom, is ok with me. Neat piece!
Steve

 

[Aardvark]

That's nice, Mark. Looks like it's in decent shape (?).

 

[Kismet]

Hey Mark,

small world. My first pistol was an Ortgies 7.65. Loved the look, the feel, the size...everything but the function. Mine wasn't happy unless it jammed with the ammo I had...darned near every outing. I was using...jeez, if I can remember that far back...hp .32s. Probably an ammo problem, but I was ignorant, and the gunshop above the range made money each time I had them work on it.

If I recall correctly, Ortgies was the name of the town of the mfr., and they made a .25, .32 and .380. I remember thinking it would have been neat to have one in each caliber.

I hope yours works with greater efficiency.

Nice image.




Kis

 

[TWBryan]

Bear in mind that roughly 90% of all troubles with semi-auto pistols can be traced to the magazine. Ortgies quality (IIR C) was hit or miss,sometimes you'd get a great one,other times a jammatic.

 

[Piso Mojado]

Great photos, I feel like Inspector Karl Lohmann!!

Some Ortgies have weak firing pin springs, you can get a new one (and replacement magazines) from Numrich:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1830zPOCKET%20SEMI%20AUTO%20PISTOL

Did you know that Deutsche Werke built the battlecruiser Gneisenau?

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/germany/battleships/gneisenau/gneisenau_page_1.htm

 

[markksr]

Heinrich Ortgies was the designer of these pistoles. Erfurt was the town of manufacture.

While I have never really fired it much (just a mag or two at a time every couple of years), I have never had a single problem with it using FMJs, you have to remember that this is what they were designed for back then before HPs existed.

I'd say it's around 90%...It does have some pitting on the slide, but I can only see it under magnification.

Here's a great article about them...http://ortgies.net/ortgies0015.htm

 

[markksr]

Just a couple more pics...

 

[Aardvark]

Great photos, I feel like Inspector Karl Lohmann!!

Some Ortgies have weak firing pin springs, you can get a new one (and replacement magazines) from Numrich:

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1830zPOCKET%20SEMI%20AUTO%20PISTOL

Did you know that Deutsche Werke built the battlecruiser Gneisenau?

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/germany/battleships/gneisenau/gneisenau_page_1.htm

Wow, that ship was fantastic.

 

[Piso Mojado]

Wow, that ship was fantastic.

Deutsche Werke AG was the old Imperial navy yard at Kiel. In 1919 the Republic turned it into a government-sponsored enterprise (like our late lamented Fannie Mae) with a corporate headquarters in Berlin. There was no money to reopen the navy yard in 1919, but when Heinrich Ortgies died, Deutsche Werke bought his factory and went into the pocket pistol business. That got them through the post-war depression. In 1925 they reopened the navy yard and built commercial shipping. In 1935, the Nazis tore up the Versailles treaty and the Kiel yard resumed building warships. The most impressive were the Gneisenau and the unfinished aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin: beautiful ships but a great waste of resources.

http://www.bundesarchiv.de/aktuelles/aus_dem_archiv/galerie/00159/index.html

You won't find many arms makers that went from 7.65 MM pocket pistols to 280 MM naval rifles.

 

[hollowdweller]

Almost has an astra type look to it.

 

[Kismet]

Made me feel like Boston Blackie, The Thin Man, or Bogart. Well, up until it jammed, then I felt like "victim B" in the film noir.