OT:410 Stainless

[Pappy]

Can somebody tell me about 410 cutlery Stainless Steel. Is an edged weapon made of this steel worth takeing home or not?

 

[redvenom]

Pappy I'm certainly no expert but i think 410 is often used for knife furniture like bolsters, guards, liners and frames.

Based on the alloy composition (less than 0.2% carbon), it doesn't look like it will hold an edge for long. You may be pleasantly surprised though, so dont take my word for it...

Check here for the full spec sheet:
http://www.suppliersonline.com/propertypages/410.asp

Regards
Andrew Lim

 

[Pappy]

It doesn't look like it would be much good without proper heat treating. I was looking at a Hawk that looked pretty nice but, I don't want to have to sharpen the thing every 15 minutes.

 

[Ripper]

Pappy,
Andew is right:

Based on the alloy composition (less than 0.2% carbon), it doesn't look like it will hold an edge for long.

410 stainless will harden to the 40-45 Rc range.
Edit: It would be pretty tough though, something you would want in a hawk. I think some of the originals were made out of brass.
Regards,
Greg

 

[Pappy]

Thanks for the confirmation. I don't think I would be throwing the one that I was looking at it is too good a weapon to be thrown away. Recreation throwing is fine bit some were not really intended to be thrown. 12 oz. head is a weapon for sure.

 

[Hibuke]

with a 410 stainless blade. It doesn't have the carbon and alloy composition to hold a decent edge, even with good heat treating.

Originally posted by Pappy
Can somebody tell me about 410 cutlery Stainless Steel. Is an edged weapon made of this steel worth takeing home or not?

And yes, 410 Stainless is most often used in liner-locking folding knives for locking liner springs and back spacers, where the maximum attainable 40+ RC is ideal...

 

[redvenom]

Pappy,

Did you check out the ATC (American Tomahawk Co) hawks? Plain carbon steel which is what i would prefer for something thats going to take some abuse. I have been toying with the idea of getting one. But then given the current security-conscious environment I think the customs officials over here will probably press the panic button when they X-ray the package.

I also found Bruce Evans through bladeforums and he makes a real nice hawk too:
http://www.homestead.com/beknives1/beknives5.html

Regards
Andrew Lim

Originally posted by Pappy
It doesn't look like it would be much good without proper heat treating. I was looking at a Hawk that looked pretty nice but, I don't want to have to sharpen the thing every 15 minutes.

 

[Bill Martino]

If it don't rust don't get it.

 

[SkagSig40]

How did I know you were going to say that Uncle Bill!

 

[Sylvrfalcn]

Pappy let me guess, you been checking out them tomahawks from Alan Foundry that are made out of 410 stainless. Look down a little farther on that same page and you'll see the carbon steel ones from the same company. That's what I'd get if it was me.

Sarge