OT: Animal thread--Cows

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DEMOCRATIC You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty for being successful. Barbara Streisand sings for you.

REPUBLICANISM You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So?

SOCIALIST You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor. You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.

COMMUNIST You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides you with milk. You wait in line for hours to get it. It is expensive and sour.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE You have two cows. Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.

AMERICAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one. You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses. Your stock goes up. You retire with a 12 billion golden parachute.

FRENCH CORPORATION You have two cows. You go on strike because you want three cows. You go to lunch and drink wine. Life is good.

JAPANESE CORPORATION You have two cows. You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk. They learn to eat raw fish and rice. Most are at the top of their class at cow school.

GERMAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk; unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.

ITALIAN CORPORATION You have two cows but you don't know where they are. While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman. You break for lunch. Life is good.

RUSSIAN CORPORATION You have two cows. You have some vodka. You count them and learn you have five cows. You have some more vodka. You count them again and learn you have 42 cows. The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.

TALIBAN CORPORATION You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two. You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature' private parts. You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.

IRAQI CORPORATION You have two cows. They go into hiding. They send radio tapes of their mooing.

POLISH CORPORATION You have two bulls. Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.

BELGIAN CORPORATION You have one cow. The cow is schizophrenic. Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish. The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow. The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk. The cow asks permission to be cut in half. The cow dies happy.

FLORIDA CORPORATION You have an attractive black cow and an attractive brown cow. Everyone votes for the prettiest. Some people vote for both. Some people can't figure out how to vote at all. Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.

CALIFORNIA CORPORATION You have millions of cows. One third drown in floods;One third burn up in brush fires; Only five speak English. Arnold likes the ones with the big udders.Michael Jackson likes the little bull calves.

IRISH CORPORATION:You own two cows. They are green. You are drunk anyway so you don't care.
Thanks to Faramir!

JAMAICAN CORPORATION:You own two cows and a ganja patch. Cows eat all de herb.You kill cows make jerk beef. :)
 
about French Cows; I saw the news the other night and the French Govt wanted to allow people to work more than 35 hours a week. It has been the law they cannot work more than that.

The govt wants more tax revenues from longer work weeks to pay for social services they can no longer afford.

The whole thing's kinda funny.




munk
 
goats, sheep, chickens, pigs, llamas, Dali Lamas, and donkeys. The two cow system is too restrictive.



munk
 
Jebadiah_Smith said:
What, no Irish corporation?

Irish corporation: you own two cows. They are green. You are drunk anyway so you don't care.

:confused:

Munk: hey have shortened their work-week to 35 hours. While it might sound silly to those of you (i'd say us but i'm still unemployed :D ) who're used to longer work weeks it probably does wonders for the unemployment stats- everybody gets to work, they make a reasonable amount of money (they don't end up filthy rich but they live just fine, no hassle or worries) and they have more free time on their hands. When i think about it realiscially, this is what the rest of the world [with longer work weeks][ is striving for - that, or one million dollars (in dr. Evil voice :) :D :cool: ).
 
Faramir- I agree with you and the Romans. The Romans had many holidays. We should enjoy life.



munk
 
I met a nice Belgian lad back in '98 while treking through South America and he was on a long vacation with pay--- I believe it was 3 months.
 
munk said:
Faramir- I agree with you and the Romans. The Romans had many holidays. We should enjoy life.



munk
Looky! Looky! Looky! "Munk is just really nice 350+." on his rep points!!!! :D :cool: :D
 
clearblue said:
I met a nice Belgian lad back in '98 while treking through South America and he was on a long vacation with pay--- I believe it was 3 months.
3 MONTHS!?!?!?! A WHOLE 3 FLIPPIN MONTHS!?!?!?!
Why in 3 months I would forget all I ever knew about the job and would have to start over at the bottom and be retrained all over again!!!! :eek: :rolleyes: :o :mad: :( :grumpy: :rolleyes: :p :D ;)
 
You don't own them. They aren't pets or livestock. They are your 'Animal Companions'.
They are gay. But, some lesbian cows in the Haight will bear calves for you if you provide semen for them at a future date.

You can't eat them or use any byproducts of their production.
The City Council tells you:
How often you must walk them
How long their walking leash must be
That they can legally wed
They have 'Minority' staus and get first crack at gov't jobs and contracts.
They deplete the Ozone Layer with their Flatulence- You must register them as a toxic Polluter and find a way to reduce their greenhouse gasses.
 
Sutcliffe said:
You don't own them. They aren't pets or livestock. They are your 'Animal Companions'.
They are gay. But, some lesbian cows in the Haight will bear calves for you if you provide semen for them at a future date.

You can't eat them or use any byproducts of their production.
The City Council tells you:
How often you must walk them
How long their walking leash must be
That they can legally wed
They have 'Minority' staus and get first crack at gov't jobs and contracts.
They deplete the Ozone Layer with their Flatulence- You must register them as a toxic Polluter and find a way to reduce their greenhouse gasses.

Told ya'. Goats - not cows.!! :cool:
 
Yvsa, it is extremely likely that abovementioned Belgian guy worked for a company that allowed its employees to "accumulate" paid leave (sounds nifty but that usually means there is ALWAYS "plenty of work to be done so - sorry - you won't be takingany vacation this year Mr. Whatsyourname ... but it will accumulate !!!" :D ). Few years worth of this and perhaps a very flexble boss so the guy got to use it once they got SOME break at his work. It's not just the upside you should be looking at, but nice nevertheless :) The shorter work week, i'm in favor of that one ... realistically it's just about consumption once you get to certain income bracket, especially in more socially-aware countries (such as most European countries).

Why work more just to squander more in mortgages, loans and stuff you don't really need when there could be others working instead of being unemployed (= less money goes towards unemployment benefits from your paycheck and there are more people that contribute towards social security, etc.) and all of you live happily ever after ? :D
 
faramir said:
Munk: hey have shortened their work-week to 35 hours.


Wow I remember working 35 hours a week, when I was a full time student.

I don't know about the rest of you, but no wonder they (continental europeans) think we Americans are sooo greedy, heck I work enough on a slow week to take 1.5 of their jobs On busy weeks sometimes I take two full jobs.

I thought I had it good with 4 weeks of vacation at 35 years of age, how many do Germans really get?

Wow
 
45-70 said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but no wonder they (continental europeans) think we Americans are sooo greedy, heck I work enough on a slow week to take 1.5 of their jobs On busy weeks sometimes I take two full jobs.

I thought I had it good with 4 weeks of vacation at 35 years of age, how many do Germans really get?

I'd dare to speculate that they get less (assuming they went to university and have 1 years of work "seniority" under their belt). I know we do. Note that France is more of an exception with the 35-hour work week - most countries have 40 hour (8 hours a day) work weeks for your regular blue-collar workers. Most white-collar staff work longer, people working in small private firms (ones they ownfor example) work considerably more and certain occupations (doctors) work even more. It all depends onthe kind of job one has and who he is working for. I think i see both pros and cons of shorter work week (some folks see just the perks, not the downside - one makes less money, duh :) ) and i'm in favor of it. It would lessen the strain on social security system, allow more people to be employed and live decent lives and make the working population happier (less stressed with more free time on their hands to cope with the faster pace of life).

We got the "soooo greedy" folks over here too - they work ~16 hours a day,make more money but i woner if it's really worth it. Whatcha gonna do with all that money once you collapse because of a heart attack ? Pad your coffin with it ? They make more money and squander more money (on "wellness", so they are fit for more work - or so they like to think). Not my cup of tea, i just want a normal life and don't mind at all if everybody else gets a normal life too :)
 
faramir said:
.... i just want a normal life and don't mind at all if everybody else gets a normal life too :)
Sounds just like an ndn talking.:D :cool: :D :cool: :D

Faramir I wasn't aware that people could accumulate that much vacation and still be able too take it. Over here when you've accumulated more than 3 weeks worth they just like too pay you for it as they don't want you gone that long.
And hell with the business climate the way it is over here these days a person wouldn't know if their company would still be in business after such a length of time, or whether they would have a job when they got back.
After being gone that long many companies would decide they didn't need you anymore.:( :grumpy:
 
I think we are rat-f--ked. I think we are Wal Mart Citizens- (similar to the sarcastic salutation of Judge Dredd, "Citizen") I don't see many ways out. A few get lucky through chance, some hard work, and some who knows?, but most of us are going to work at least 40 hours a week with little vacation time the rest of our lives. Eventually, with both parents working to supply the same lifestyle available in past decades with only one salary, the State will raise our children with Free Daycare. I'll love to see the product of that benign neglect.
I don't mean to sound unhappy or bitter. I think the French were on to something with 35 hours but the Govt can't give them all their goodies without more taxation. The US government can't give us all the goodies either.

People used to work long farm hours just to get enough to eat. It is relative. But frankly, often people have rather dehumanizing clerical positions, paper takers, or aparatiks of all kinds. There aren't enough spots for everyone who wants to be a 'rock star' to be one. There are many billions on the planet and more coming.

I am lucky to be a stay at home dad now. Still end up working 12 hours a day, though.
I think at the least we should demand more vacation time- make it federal. Even the minimum wage group should get a lousy month off.

Then they could get a temp job to make some extra money.....lol

I know this does not sound like the conservative capitalistic munk you are used to. I'm against trying to artificially raise wages. Some of the same problems with that will be in paying for a vacation month- the products or services will simply have to be higher costing.
But it is worth it to me. We don't have a 'pure' capitalism, anyway. We once mandated how many hours and when a teenager or child could work, and did the same for adults, of course.

You want a good way to pay for a Fed law about 4 weeks off? Stop the prohibitive taxation on overtime!!!! For God's sakes- what a strange, mad and twisted thing to do to a wage earner- rip him off with high tax when he's trying to get ahead! He has no 'write off' for that taxation- unlike private business. If lowering taxes are good medicine in a Depression, they would be good here, too. The Govt would make up the revenue loss with the increased spending of the overtime workers. Money in their pockets spent at Walmart is money for the Govt.

There is an awful lot of truth to the idea that when you stand finally, you are slapped down a million times in this life.

We all just get up again.

(see- with more vacation time people wouldn't be so depressed and talk like this!!!! Probably have fewer people got nuts, too. With more vacation time, concepts like "existentialism' would cease to have meaning, and the Sundance channel would go out of business as its depressed client base shrunk)


munk
 
I am curious now as to which political party, or both, placed the high taxation on overtime? That is against the principles of capitalism.

We sure do a lot of stupid things to ourselves. Punishing productivity is one of them.






munk
 
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