OT: BB, pellet, airsoft, etc.

Daniel Koster

Daniel Koster

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All I wanted was a small, decently powered air gun - like the kind I saw in magazines as a young boy. You know the kind - replicas of pistols, etc. I just wanted something small, powered by CO2...doesn't even need to be terribly accurate. Just wanna knock soda cans over and the ocassional critter on the porch. Oh, and it'd be nice if it fit in my pocket.

Turns out there are now 100 different types of airguns, ranging from $20 to $1200 and I can't make heads or tails of the differences.

Could somebody help me out?!?

Dan
 
Typically the better brands start with Beeman. http://www.beeman.com/
They are manufactured for adults and they have more durability and accuracy than the cheap junk you see in a plastic shrink wrap.

I spent most of my youth shooting shotguns and rifles. During that time I spent a lot of time hunting. In my early 20's I gave up hunting for good and I feel bad when killing anything now. But I still love shooting, especially small caliber. Airguns are the best in this sense since they are cheap and with the right model precise.

The better models to get are the single break down barrel types. Do not go with multi-pumps. There are a few adult quality CO2 but you will get more enjoyment with the single break barrel styles. I believe there are pistols with a pump bar since they are smaller.

You seriously get what you pay for. I have a beeman which I have set the hair trigger at 14oz compared to most centerfire rifles at 6-8lbs pull. Hope this helped.
 
ya get this one..http://www.pipersprecisionproducts.com/m134_6mm.htm

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I have an RWS Diana. I purchased it from www.airgunsusa.com

Great service, great product.
I have the nickel finish M34. 1000fps. I've used it for targets and for squirrels. This is a rifle, though. They do make pistols, but I've never used one. The quality of the rifle is excellent. With a scope, I've hit the diamond in the corner of an Ace at about 25 yards. Not bad for a BB gun. It's fun to shoot bottles dangling upside down on sapling branches in the dark. Then you can hear if you hit it, and the bouncing branches give a moving target. :)
 
I have beretta M92 replica, CO2 powered airgun. Very nice. Realistic weight and preccy accurate. I can get more info once i get home..
 
Pen?

I have a Beeman Hurricaine, single pump pellet. Too big for pocket..ran about $115.00 17 years ago. Superbly made. Maybe 400fps?

Not a hunter, but fun plinker. It has adjustable sights far beyond my needs, and adjustable trigger pull from 2 to 5 pounds.

(about 11"long,5" tall)
 
jsut reminds me I need to get out to range eventually. F rined modified my little old CO2 .22 almost a year ago proably, if not mroe, and I still ahven't tried it yet. 22 pistol, had short rifle barrel put on(mine is 2240, has barrel from 2250 now). Trigger is stoned. Modified for adjsutable power. Plunger thing lenghthened to allow more room for air behind pellet. ANd I think he did one or two other htings. Pellet guns can be just as bad as regular guns. :)
 
Slingshot (collapsable wrist-rocket type) from Walmart... 5$, fits in pocket, uses most anything for ammo, quieter than n airgun.
 
Seriously, I'd put some priority on accuracy, adjustable sights, availibility of consistent ammo (don't have to use the best all the time--but it's there), and the like.

As soon as the inherent (in)accuracy of the gun becomes the limiting factor instead the shooter, the shooter can't learn much more with the gun as far as marksmanship goes. Then it gets pretty boring and unrewarding unless you find chance to be more interesting than purposeful action.

Save up a while, if needed, and get something capable of producing decent groups--That way you'll have something that you can grow into and enjoy using for years. If you've ever played darts, you'll know it's a lot more fun with a decent set instead of those one-piece molded plastic things that sell for a couple bucks a set and don't fly straight.

Same deal.
 
For airguns, I have been using a Beeman FWB 124 & an HW 70(air pistol) for years. Both are extremely accurate, quiet & reliable. Then again, I have a good slingshot from Madison Parker down in Florida that is about the most powerful one I can draw, & it does a job on rabbits & squirrels. A .40 cal or larger(like the Cold Steel ones) blowguns are hard to beat. Also quiet & very effective. It is amazing to see what good darts will do in a blowgun against pests,& small game.

Straight Shooters has a web-site; www.straightshooters.com, I think. They sell new & some used airguns, have good prices & in general, know what they are talking about.
 
Dan?

About the pocket carry thing? Check your local laws. Because air pistols look like guns, it may have to be cased to carry in your locale.

Maybe I've over-stating the obvious, but....
 
I got a pellet rifle and pellet pistol. The pistol operates via CO2 canisters and the rifle is pump.

I mostly shoot with the rifle, and can consistantly hit a penny from offhand at around 30-40 feet, until the rear sight kinda slides off to one side... :mad: :o

10 pumps per shot gets old REAL quick. :( :grumpy:
 
I had a Walther PPK replica pistol for a while earlier this year -- CO2 power, shot BBs, made (IIRC) by Crosman, bought new (in blister pack) for $90 at a gun show. It was a very sweet little handgun with a 14-round magazine, pretty much the same weight as the real thing. I had to get rid of it to keep peace with my wife, but I still miss it.
 
Originally posted by firkin
Seriously, I'd put some priority on accuracy, adjustable sights, availibility of consistent ammo (don't have to use the best all the time--but it's there), and the like.
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YES! To me FPS is not as important with an air gun as the accuracy.

My current model is the Beeman R9 .177, and I have had it for 6 years. .177 since the ammo is everywhere for this caliber. One of these days I will save up my money and get a match airgun. I am looking at the FWB 603($1680.00 :( ).

But I also want to get the air pistol first. I will probably get the HW70A ($190) since it looks less like a real gun and more like an airgun.

With my r9 on a good day I can put 10 flat tipped (wadcutter style) bullets in the center dot with only a little deviation from the center at 10 meters. The center is the size of a .20 cal bullet. So even though my r9 is called a sporting gun it is very accurate. I said this to point out that its good quality that counts.

The prices on the site are the highest you will pay. I'm sure that a local gunstore is much cheaper. I will also check out the other models someone posted earlier.
 
Any of the better spring-piston air rifles (rifled - use lead pellets - NOT BBs) will serve you well. I used to have a Feinwerkbau M-124 and had a Leupold Vari-X III scope on it. Used it to kill wasp nests from a safe distance - one wasp at a time. That Feinwerkbau isn't being made anymore, but current production guns are alot better.

IMHO - steer well away from the smooth-bore "BB" guns. BBs land like miniature superballs and ricochette all over - its dangerous.
 
Hey, I did the same thing a couple years ago! Just like you, I just wanted a little thing from old times and I might use it to get rid of a few pests too. Anyways, I reccomend something along the lines of a crosman 2240. Good power for a pistol, which is what you indicated that you wanted? Don't buy RWS, Beeman, etc. Spring guns aren't what you need. They have a funny, double recoil, snapping forward and then back, that makes them more difficult to shoot, and spring pistols also tend to have less power than the co2 and PCP pistols. PCP (Pre-charged pneumatics) are scuba guns. Real expensive. Those are probably the 1200 dollar guns you saw. Or they might've been Beeman Cro-mags or SLR 98's. Those are gas strut guns. Also very expensive.
Pick up the 2240. It's a .22 cal Co2 pistol(always go with the bigger calibers when you want power from a gas gun), about 50 bucks from wal mart, yields around 6 foot lbs of energy, which is pretty good for your applications. And it's crosman, and old time american maker.
 
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