OT: beginner thinking about hunting

Dang it how times have changed. Hunter safety courses were available in grade school, and you brought your rifle to go to the range. In CALIFORNIA yet! And into the '70's you got college credit for pistol shooting. The class was held at a high school after hours and you had to bring your gun the class before going to the range so the Rangemaster could inspect them all ( mine were a 2&1/2 inch mODEL 19 357 mag., and a 4" Model 58 fixed sight N frame 41 mag - that 58 is no longer with me, but it's in good hands ).
 
I started shooting when I was 10, but never knew anybody who hunted when I was growing up.

I started out trying to learn by tagging on with more experienced hunters, but I saw so many who were bereft of ethics or safety concerns that I rarely met anyone I was willing to hunt with twice. Too many people in Idaho do not believe in fair chase. It's probably true elsewhere, but my experience is here.

I finally gave up and decided it would be easier to raise my own hunting partners.
 
I made a bad mistake once, when someone I just 'knew' kept saying, 'shoot, shoot, what are you waiting for?"

I didn't learn firearms until I was 31 or 2.


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Take a firearms safety course to brush up. Then take a hunter safety course.

Then track rabbits with a .22 rifle. You'll learn a lot about them. Hunting is a great way to find out that your food has a personality.
 
I second Rusty, learn how to "field dress" the game first, well maybe second after a gun safety course. It helps to go with an old guy.....uh? like me. :)

Good luck
 
Hey Jeb and Dan, I have friends that hunt hogs with pits and knives. Biggest one they got was a little over 300lb! One of the guys is a knifemaker and uses one of his folders with a 4" blade to cut their throat. The other guys use Kabars and Mauser bayonets and stick them behind the front leg into their heart. I've never gone with them, so far I've only used my rifle on hogs. Maybe someday I'll play with the big boys :D

As far as hunter safety goes, I believe that it is now mandatory in all of the states. Even if it wasn't it still is a great idea.

Raghorn, you are right in saying that their are plenty of idiots in the woods. I hunt with my father and a couple of our buddies now and that is it. My boys are going with us this year to hunt my friends ranch. Sure is nice to have access to 500 acres only an hour away. Place hasn't had cattle on it for 30 years and has returned to nature pretty much, except for 3 5 acre ponds. We hunt deer, hog, quail, and rabbit there. There is a herd of tully elk that we like to watch; they are protected here and that is ok with us. Love to hear them whistling! What part of Idaho are you in? I have kin in Pocatella, Twin Falls and Filer.


Stevo
 
stevo and jeb - I'm hoping to sneak in a hog trip here soon.....fingers crossed. I'll finish grinding the knife today...:eek:
 
Re: Hunter safety.


I still carry my original Hunter Safety card that I got in 1985.
 
Search out as much as you need to learn about the topic of "Still Hunting".



A still hunter often gets an opportunity to take a variety of animals to include turkey,pig,deer,etc.

If you're a "meat" hunter go with the shotgun if a sport hunter go with the rifle

The essence of still hunting is walk into the woods,find a spot to sit down and rest your back against a tree trunk,be totally still and absolutely quiet for 15 minutes, and you will be amazed at how the woods come alive with game.If no activity in 15 minutes move to a new spot and repeat.

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Nobody will use it, ever." [Thomas Edison, 1889]

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I am really enjoying your suggestions and ideas.

Let me be plain and specific about my two major concerns. If I actually do find an animal and shoot it...

1. Can I be comfortable (enough) injuring and/or killing an animal?

2. Can I field dress the animal?
 
If you bring sweat pants and a sweat shirt, they should fit almost any animal, but use a dark color, they get dirty easily. :p
 
cognitivefun said:
I am really enjoying your suggestions and ideas.

Let me be plain and specific about my two major concerns. If I actually do find an animal and shoot it...

1. Can I be comfortable (enough) injuring and/or killing an animal?

2. Can I field dress the animal?
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You need to study "how to" field dress game.

I took a fellow deer hunting in Ga. He shot a doe, and never brought a knife. I did the dirty work , helped him drag the deer out and he never gave me a piece of the meat. The same thing different man in Fl. :mad:

As far as remorse regarding killing game, you should always feel bad. Say a prayer of thanks to the animal and eat him.
 
sams said:
As far as remorse regarding killing game, you should always feel bad. Say a prayer of thanks to the animal and eat him.
Yup.








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cognitivefun said:
1. Can I be comfortable (enough) injuring and/or killing an animal?

2. Can I field dress the animal?
Only you can answer the first question. It's much the same thing as, "Could I kill or injure a human being in my self defense?"
And you're not killing Bambi or other defensless animal.
If you are hunting right most often getting your shot is the results of weeks of planning and hard work, for most folks that is.
When it comes time for you too actually squeeze the trigger your mouth will be dry, you will be shaking all inside with excitement, and scared shltless that something will go wrong, that you won't know what you're doing, but then everything will come into focus, you squeeze the trigger and then look at what you've killed, and yes, you will feel bad if you've any heart at all.
And hunting each type of game will bring differences. Rabbit hunting can be face paced and exciting as well with being especially concerned and careful of where your bullet is going downrange! The first time you pick up Thumper you're going too feel like a real ass picking on such a small defenseless animal. See above.

Anyone that can read can learn too field dress an animal. I wish I could recommend some good books but I can't. I learned from family and friends and although I wasn't allowed too kill the tame rabbits I raised when I was six and half I was not only allowed too clean them but encouraged.:D
It wasn't because of my age that I wasn't allowed too kill my rabbits but from fear I wouldn't do it right or have the strength to hit them in the back of the neck correctly so as too make a clean kill.
A clean kill means everything too me no matter the method used, learned at an early age. One of the few good things my old man taught me.
 
As far as killing goes... I've been fortunate to have cleanly killed every animal I've shot. I only experienced the "buck fever" Yvsa describes once in my life, while taking a 15 yard head-on muzzleloader shot at an approaching black bear. Every other time it has been as though I'm watching in slow motion through someome else's eyes. I never hear my own shot. I'm not trying to lay any mystical BS on anyone, that's just the way it happens for me.

This next part is extremely important to me. ALWAYS give thanks for and bless your animal immediately after the kill. Then you owe the animal the respect of properly field dressing and caring for the meat as quickly and efficiently as possible, and not wasting it. It's not difficult to learn, and it's your obligation in exchange for the life you have taken. Around here lots of folks shoot coyotes and leave 'em lay just because they can. I warned my sons that they will eat what they shoot, so choose your supper wisely.

Two last points: First, practice Practice PRACTICE with your firearm until you are thoroughly familiar and comfortable with it. Learn its limitations and learn yours. Respect those limitations and stay within them. If you don't practice 300 yard shots on paper, don't take any at living game.

Second, spend as much time in the outdoors as you possibly can, not interacting with your surroundings, just sitting and observing them
 
cognitivefun said:
I am really enjoying your suggestions and ideas.

Let me be plain and specific about my two major concerns. If I actually do find an animal and shoot it...

1. Can I be comfortable (enough) injuring and/or killing an animal?

2. Can I field dress the animal?
I'm not a religious guy, but I am going to steal their words to express my ideas.

Prayer is not only important after a kill but also prior to and during a hunt. I don't have much skill and no one taught me to hunt. But in the past when I needed meat and asked for it it has been graciously offered.

Taking the life of another creature is a very intimate experience. For me, it is not something to be taken lightly.

I'm one of the people who does not believe in "fair chase." I do recognize the need for game and resource management, but hunting will never be a game for me.

You can learn the basics of dressing animals from a book or on the web. Do it.

If you pray, and hunt, and an opportunity presents, and you ask for guidance, and it doesn't feel right, then don't kill. You don't have to prove anything to anyone.
 
Guys, I really appreciate the thoughtful and honest and even spiritual answers you've provided.

You make me glad to know you.

And Cog? Thank you for asking the question. What I learned from it that what I thought was right is indeed right ( or close enough ) according to folks I have faith in.
 
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