OT: Calling all gun knuts--some advice please!

Some things I've considered - may or not make sense to you.

My vision is 20/440+, legally blind without glasses. My hearing loss is over 25db. With glasses I'm 20/20. With hearing aids, still some loss. Also am over 50, 5'4" tall and overweight. Have a gimpy leg too.

Point being, unless alerted, my first notice of trouble may well be me down already on the ground, disoriented, and my body functioning shaky. I picked my two carry guns due to these circumstances.

If I have to start from behind, I want something I can handle instinctively. Revolver is that - after 35 years of handling. Standard pressure 38 special out of 2" barrel puts out about 200 ft. lbs. muzzle energy.

My pick for gun one is an Airweight Bodyguard loaded with Glase Safety Slugs. Small, light, shrouded hammer with tip exposed. Grips reshaped to fit me. Recoil somewhat sharp but tolerable. Two or more shots to center of mass out of five probably doable. That takes care of one assailant. I can wear that all day.

Gun two is more of the same. Rather than revolver, an auto. Same power - 200 ft. lbs. but from 380 acp.

CZ83 with 13+1 mag and 3 spares ( in fanny pack or bible cover depending on circumstances ). All steel because I might not lock my wrist. Maybe a tad bigger than your 9mm and 45 hideouts, but that makes for 53 wimpy but very fast firing rounds with I can carry next to me.

Use controlled expansion rounds that penetrate deeply, ( Hornady or Rem. 102 grain ) and most shots should exit, leaving 2 holes per shot. Want to double or triple the impact, just continue to pull trigger.

Maybe not your cup of tea, but then I drink coffee. Might be a few ideas there worth considering. And while I wouldn't expect it, I also wouldn't put it past my liberal medically retired elementary teacher wife to see me go down and grab my revolver or khuk and take on the devil himself. She used to be 5' even, but has shrunk a bit. She could still handle a 38 or 380, even a BAS or 16.5 WW2 until sanity returned.

PS: if you never heard of a revolver firing full auto, you haven't seen me scared.

Edited a couple times to make more sense.
 
Makes good sense to me! For years I carried a model 60 .38 with a bobbed hammer. My son used it to rid the house of an intruder while I was at work.

I think a .38 special has stood the test of time. Not too much recoil or noise, and plenty of punch. I never met anyone who couldn't handle a .38, a good round. A.380 is bassicly the same. It is hard to find a 100 % reliable .380. I have a Walther, shoots good with the right bullets.;)
 
Hi Rob , I'd go with a S&W Centennial or the same frame design in .357 ,pick the bullet for the season [fragible or solid] you have to remember you have to wear more stuff dureing the winter.You can transfer the pistol to an outer pocket an it's out in a flash!:) that and the glock 26 have been my ccw for many year's the 1911 my house gun:D PS: a test with my shooting buddy Nakanno 2 I did'nt even pull it out of the pocket just shot through it, made a third eye on " mean man" target :eek: it was crossed eye "mean man":D http://images.google.com/images?svn...e=UTF-8&q=smith+and+wesson+centennial&spell=1
 
Many thanks for all the great responses!:)

I'm headed to work right now, so I need to come back and re-read these posts and then respond when I've had a chance to do that.

Keep em comin if you've got em! :)
 
the Walther p99

Light,compact,ambidexterous without mods,has a under barrel site for lighting and lazer, shoots +p's just fine...ir has an extheded trigger guard for cold environs...and best of all it has the safest "safety" system I have ever used...barring the HK P13.

I have owned pistols and revolvers of many variations and carried them. This one fills the bill for all applications except hunting...

it also has adjustable grip inserts for different shaped hands...

add tritium sights and you are there...
Shane
 
a relative of mine who is a policeman says the Heckler & Koch P2000 and the Heckler & Koch USP COMPACT are very safe and good. The USP COMPACT is available as a 9 millimeter, .40 S&W and .45 Auto, it is light (under 700 gramms and has a 12 round magazine (the .40 version). Thr P 2000 (13 rounds)is available as a 9 mm gun only. Both have a lengh under 18 cm and are 34 mm wide. sounds concealable to me.
However I do not know how expensive they are. links are here (German, Specs on the bottom of the pages)

Keckler&Koch P2000
Heckler&Koch USP COMPACT

The P7M8 is 33 mm wide, 17.1 cm long, has 8 rounds and is known to be ready very fast and very accurate
Link is here:
Heckler & Koch P7M8

However I am no expert - but the USP would be my choice I guess.

Andreas
 
My choices would be the following:
S&W 442 or 642 for summer carry
Full-size 1911 for winter carry wearing heavy coat, Commander 1911 for winter carry if I'm gonna be indoors alot.
I just got a CZ75B and am amazed at the smoothness of the DA pull, way way better than any Beretta, SIG, or Smith auto I've ever handled and cost alot less. I've heard good things avout the CZ P-01, but I don't care for the light rail.
 
Originally posted by Yvsa
Here is the English version for those who can't read German.
Yvsa, I read and speak perfect English and I can't understand a bloomin' thing I've read on this thread...

I admit it - I'm gun-illiterate.

Not by choice! Only by opportunity...have yet to need/get/find/etc. one I like...

Been looking long and hard at building a small blackpowder pistol - just for fun.


MauiRob - what about a lil' derringer? Sarge knows all about 'em. ;)

:p
 
Originally posted by MauiRob
Okay! So I sold my Glock model 27 with lasermax internal sights. I now have 500.00 burning a hole in my pocket. I need a concealed carry gun. Must be Light and small, but I'd like it to have some type of safety. I'm very fond of .45 acp as a defense ammo, but the guns it comes in tend to be bulky and/or heavy. I'm really not stuck on .45 at all. I believe in the idea that a .22 that you carry is better than the .454 you leave at home.

Any advice is very much appreciated!!!!!!

Not much to choose from in a decent caliber that small with a manual safety.

I'd recommend a close look at Kimber's offerings or Para-Ordnance, but you won't find much for $500.

Don
 
Originally posted by Sutcliffe
Compact frame five shot revolvers in .44 spl. With proper bullet selection they can be very efficient stoppers. Yeah, they lack the safety but it's very difficult to accidentaly squeeze a round off with a double action pull. I tried getting one myself but the EXALTED STATE of CALIFORNIA requires shakedown or protection money from gunmakers to sell handguns in this blasted state. If you don't pay the ream fees you can't sell. SIMPLE, HUH!!!!!!!! Still pisses me off on that one.

Kalifornia (spit).

Tell me about it. Bought a S&W Model 629. Everything was cool because it was on the "Shakedown List".

I thought.

Turns out the ONLY 629 they allow is the 629-6. My used 629-1 that I bought is not allowed into the state because S&W didn't feel like paying $15,000 plus offering three of them for testing to be allowed to sell that model in the state.

So now it's been sitting for a yeare now in a gun safe in Nebraska half-way across the continent.

I don't fault S&W - I fault this state and its idiotic gun-banning legislators.

Man, California is SO much safer now that the 629-1 can't be brought into the state. I just sleep so much better at night now.

Don
 
For EDC, my first choice would be a Lightweight Commander in .45 acp. You just can't do better than a .45 IMHO.

Next would be the Airweight Bodyguard S&W that Rusty mentioned. I have one and carry it alot. Loaded with Magsafe pre-fragmented rounds (or Glasers) and at close range, you won't feel unprotected and it is very light and easy to carry.

I also like the Barami grip for the Airweight. Easy to tuck in the waistband. No holster needed. But kinda cold in the winter time if the gun gets next to your skin. :)
 
Originally posted by Semper Fi
For EDC, my first choice would be a Lightweight Commander in .45 acp. You just can't do better than a .45 IMHO.

Next would be the Airweight Bodyguard S&W that Rusty mentioned. I have one and carry it alot. Loaded with Magsafe pre-fragmented rounds (or Glasers) and at close range, you won't feel unprotected and it is very light and easy to carry.

I also like the Barami grip for the Airweight. Easy to tuck in the waistband. No holster needed. But kinda cold in the winter time if the gun gets next to your skin. :)

If I was insistant on a manual-safety gun, it would be a Lightweight Commander or its Kimber equivalent. Second choice would be either a lightweight Officer's Model or Kimber equivalant or a reworked Browning Hi-Power in either .40 or 9mm (Commander style hammer, extended safety, and recontour that spiky pointy tang).

Don
 
and still no eyecandy till now...
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