OT: Former student makes me proud

Yvsa, I think you sell your writing skills a little short there. I never have any trouble understanding your posts :) . As for all the grammar stuff, it's easy. I could show you the all the basics in an afternoon. I wish I lived closer. I'd love to come over for the afternoon and trade grammar knowledge for Yvsa knowledge. I think I could pick your brain for quite some time on a variety of topics :D

--Josh
 
Federico said:
Josh the very fact you tried when so many others would have given up makes me damn proud to say that yeah I know of that Josh Feltman guy, he one of the good ones.
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:D :D

And thanks for your kind words as well, Drdan.

Teaching is its own reward, and perhaps its own punishment as well :D :footinmou

--Josh
 
Me wrotes well english, yes?

Never really cared much for proper writing, grammar and punctuation until after finishing high school. Me yosed da engrish everyday. Hoo needz it? By the time I figured out it was useful to trick people into thinking you were literate, it was too late. :(

The only English courses I see offered now are ESL courses. None of those snobby "How to Speak and Write Like Royalty" courses are offered anymore.

What are these ";" used for as opposed to these ":"? :confused:
 
BruiseLeee said:
What are these ";" used for as opposed to these ":"? :confused:
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Do you really want to know, are are you just teasing? I have to ask, because if I start talking about it, I risk sounding more pedantic than usual. :rolleyes:

--Josh
 
Damn Josh, I hadn't fully understood what a word smith you were when I agreed to have you check out the first chunk of my book. Er..uh...most my grammar is OK when I try hard....

.........

Do you mean this entire thread went by without anyone commenting that Josh's student met the end of his rampage on NORMAL street?








munk
 
Yeah, munk, the only reason I wanted to read it was to nitpick all your grammar ;) :D Grammar is only a small part of the overall writing process, but it can be an important one. I'm not a grammar Nazi by any means, but I do stress the importance of understanding the parts of speech, etc., to my students when it comes to editing. It's hard to tell if you have a complete sentence if you don't know what parts of speech you need to make one. Now hurry up and finish that book, dammit! I'm almost done with the children's book I'm reading now.

--Josh
 
Oh, that's right- you're rereading that juvenile Dune, aren't you? I guess great kids think alike, because I've read it at least 4 times.

Has anyone ever read Shane? Simple language and declaritive sentences. A work an 8 year old and a 89 year old can both love. That's writing. I plan on reading Bill's recomendation of the author of the Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

munk
 
Josh Feltman said:
Do you really want to know, are are you just teasing? I have to ask, because if I start talking about it, I risk sounding more pedantic than usual.
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";" I gots to know.
 
; you don't have to press the shift key

: you have to press the shift key

:D :rolleyes: ;)
 
Ben Arown-Awile said:
They both do the same thing, except the ":" is a little more definite about it than the ";".
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Me is dum. Me needz sum exampoz. :(

Is it like...

Please take the following from the table: 10, 20, and 50 dollar bills.

as opposed to...

Gimme all your fricken money;
 
Semicolons ( ; ) are used to join closely related independent clauses. In other words, they join two or more closely related sentences together. Example:

"I saw Uncle Bill's deals today; sadly, I don't have any money." Basically, if you can substitute a period for the semicolon, you're using it correctly. The biggest misuse of the semicolon is to join a sentence fragment to an independent clause. Example:

"I watched the Perseids last night; then went to bed."

In this case, what follows the semicolon isn't a complete sentence, so it won't work.

The only other place semicolons are used is to separate items in a list where one or more of the items already contains a comma.

Example:

"I invited Bob; Maria, who is a lawyer; Linda; Terry, a nurse; and Roger to the party."

Even if only one of the items in the list contains a comma, all of them are separated by semicolons.

Colons ( : ) on the other hand, are used for a variety of things, including time and separating the chapter and verse in bible citations. They are also used to set something off from the rest of the sentence while at the same time drawing the reader's attention to it. Things that can follow a colon include a direct quotation, a list, or an appositive. An appositive, by the way, is a word or phrase that renames or describes a noun.

Examples:

Appositive:

Caroline finally purchased her dream car: a Mazda. (Mazda in this case it the appositive because it renames or gives additional info about "car")

Direct quote:

On the issue of convex edges, Josh Feltman said the following: "Strop 'em if you've got 'em."

List:

To put a Tru-Oil finish on a khukuri handle, you'll need the following items: Tru-oil, varying grits of wet/dry sandpaper, furniture wax, and lots of patience.

I'll shut up now. Lemme know if this isn't clear.

--Josh
 
You see? I don't know nothing. I know semi's are for little differences, and colons for big. There's an obsence joke in there somewhere.

Like a lot of people, I play music by ear and write by 'seemliness". I dont' care much if I use a quote on one side of a word and the astro thingie on the other. Unless I write seriously; then I use my automatic **** detector to rule out garbage.



If the rules were where it was at- all professors would be best sellers.
And many academics are- they buy each others works.



munk
 
Bruise, you've got it.

I'm not suggesting that one needs to follow the rules of grammar to be a best seller. Clive Barker uses semicolons incorrectly all the time. It doesn't stop me from enjoying his books, and based on the amount of them he sells, I don't imagine it bothers anyone else either.

--Josh
 
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