OT: Hey Kevin, Longbow pics

Stevo,
As I understand it you are not just new to bowmaking, but new to the sport of archery altogether. If that is the case, here are some things for you to think about looking into;
1. Do you have ready access to an archery range, or property suitable for setting up a range on?
To develop real proficiency with bow and arrow you'll need to shoot/practice regularly.
2. Is there an archery club in the area, or at least a pro shop at the archery range, where you can get hands on assistance/advice?
No one can teach you to shoot without being there to observe your form for errors, etc., that need correction/adjustment. Best we can give you over the internet is generalized advice.
3. How tall/strong are you?
Traditional archery involves certain biomechanical "laws" that can't be contravened. For one, you will not be able to use proper form, or get any kind of consistency if trying to shoot a bow of too heavy draw weight. How do you figure out the draw weight you can handle? You should be able to bring the bow to full draw, and comfortably hold it at full draw for seven seconds, if you can't then the bow's probably too heavy for you to shoot consistently with. Another consideration, if say you're 5'2" tall, you're going to have a helluva time stringing a 72" longbow due to the length of your arms. (an unbraced longbow should be roughly the height of the archer)
4. Do you plan on hunting with the bow, and if so where?
As Hawkwind pointed out, longbows were once upon a time used regularly to take game, but I've got to add that, even in the medieval period, shorter bows were preferred by many for hunting. I can't, for example, imagine I'd want my trusty longbow with me while perched in a tree stand. If game is plentiful, and terrain is suitable for stalking, a longbow will do just fine, but if hunting in thick brush, or shooting from a stand or blind, you will definitely want something shorter.
5. What kind of bow is right for you?
Much as I prefer longbows, a Native American, oops sorry Yvsa*, Indian style flat bow may be more your cup of tea. I enjoy making and shooting the "Injun" bows, they're light, quick handling, and surprisingly powerful (read that, fine hunting weapon). The only way to figure out what's "right" for you is to try shooting as many different types/styles as you can get your hands on. *Yvsa don't cotton to PC nonsense :D
6. How much actual research have you done on the subject of archery?
There are many good books out there and at least one magazine (Primitive Archer) that I know of. The better read up you are on the subject, the more you'll be able to make informed choices. As far as making your own bow goes, the rough shaped, floor tillered, bowstaves sold by www.rudderbows.com and www.buildabow.com are a safe bet for beginners. Takes a lot of the guesswork out of the equation, and they're fairly economical.

Good luck, shoot straight, and most of all have fun,
Sarge
 
Sarge, et al:

Is it just me or do both of these websites have layered printing where you can't make out what they're saying, or do I have my page size set wrong for these sites?:confused:
 
Check your browser settings, I'm not having any difficulty with either website. Anybody else having problems?

By the way, soon as I finish this cup of coffee, I'm off to a Pow Wow. Be interesting to examine any archery tackle I might encounter there. ;)

Sarge
 
Steve forget R/D Bows if you want to make your self bow. They need bit experience.
English longbow is way easiest to make, fastest to tiler, long enough to tolerate errors.

Starting with ash is good because is forgiving and its cheap.

Such longbow can be made very well in about 3 hours and then you can immediatelly shoot quite good groups on range or take it to forrest.

Tiler (bend shape) make like this:

http://www.sweb.cz/hawkwind/Fulldraw2.JPG

This is one I made for friend while ago.
 
Thanks for the input. I understand the need to practice and then practice some more. I used to shoot carp with a 50lb Bear solid glass recurve so I guess that I'm not 100% newbie, but that was 15 years ago. I could shoot in the back yard as I don't have back neighbors and I have a large lot. I have been picking up Primitive Archer and Traditional Archery magazines. I guess that I wasn't totally clear in my questions ~ I am not sure if I want to build a bow, but I am sure that I want to OWN and shoot a basic (read any non-compound) bow. So, if I was going to buy a bow instead of buid it, which of these styles offers what to me? Sorry I'm being such a pain in the arse :o
 
stevomiller said:
Sorry I'm being such a pain in the arse :o

Stevo, you said it, not me. :rolleyes: Asking which bow is kind of like asking which khukuri, depends on the individual and the intended use. Hawkwind and I seem to be pretty much in agreement regarding the virtues of the English longbow, but your results may vary. Most honest answer I can give you is try to get your hands on and shoot several types to see which one's right for you.

Sarge
 
Thanks, I guess its a very personal type decision. I just thought maybe there were some generalizations that could be made, just like for kuks; ie, a chainpuri is fast, but doesn't really chop well, etc. Mybe I'll just have to buy one of each and find out for myself :D

I will see what I can find for traditional bows somewhat close to home. Last year when I first got a wild hair and tried to find something, all the local shops knew nothing about them. All they knew about were compounds, or at best target recurves with magnesium risers and stabilizers and super hoopty sights etc.... One guy told me you had to use a release if you wanted to have any hope of shooting well. :mad:

Thanks again guys,
stevo
 
Stevo,
Don't know where you live, but check out www.sca.org to see if there's a shire, barony, etc. in your local area. If so, chances are they've got a website and points of contact, perhaps even a local archery marshal and scheduled archery practices. Us medieval "recreationists" shoot nothing but traditional archery equipment, somebody wielding a "bicycle bow" with pulleys, sights, and trigger releases, would be chased away at the point of a broadsword.
Seriously, no kidding, if you can get in touch with some local SCA archers, I just about guarantee they can hook you up regarding traditional archery tackle. Oh, but don't be surprised if some of the more "unmanly" amongst 'em show up toting crossbows, another infernal "mechanism" IMHO. :grumpy: :D

Sarge
 
Thanks for the link Sarge!!!! There's a group here in Tulsa!:thumbup: :D May be that I could check out my Scots/Irish side.;) :D
 
Yvsa said:
Thanks for the link Sarge!!!! There's a group here in Tulsa!:thumbup: :D May be that I could check out my Scots/Irish side.;) :D

Yup, you're in the same SCA "Kingdom" as I am. Welcome to Ansteorra, Lord Robert of Yorkshire at your service. :D

Sarge

By the way, if you do happen to drop in on Northkeep, their archery marshal is one Lord Arthur Blackmoon, good guy, give him my regards :thumbup:
 
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