OT: Nobody needs a pellet gun...

http://store.bbgunfunstore.com/drbrpoairpi.html

For sheer airgun fun, see the Baikal Drozd BB machinegun. 1, 3 or 6 shot bursts, 600 FPS. This thing is unreal. Got a red dot sight on mine. Tears up cans, just a hoot to shoot.

But the Colibri ammo- I like it so much a got a little Henry lever .22 just to shoot the ammo. Not a tack driver, but accurate enough for fun purposes.

Between the two toys, it's a given that my backyard is a dangerous place... luckily my neighbors are shooters too :D Letting people shoot the Drozd makes instant friends.



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Dangit Brantoken, you are wrong! wrong! wrong! Ya' wanna know why?

I just picked up a couple benji's at good prices the other day, and I'm having so much fun with 'em that I'm already considering a Beeman GS 1000. And another thing is that I've seriously been drooling over the Career selections of pre-charged rifles- especially the .50 cal. :D I can't afford another addiction!!!

So, you'll just have to excuse me for trying to pretend I never read your post.

On a more serious note, your Air Arms sounds awesome. I'm assuming you don't need a tax stamp and all that jazz with the supressor? If you don't mind my asking, approximately how many clams does a package like that go for?
 
I did not need one, but I sure do like my RWS sidelever in .177. 1200 fps and very accurate. Not the same as a rifle. Not harder, not easier, just different. The basic mechanics of shooting are so similar between the two that I think anyone experienced with one would rapidly pick up and make the necessary adjustments to shoot the other. I do want a nice, but cheap .22 to try out this subsonic ammo with though, preferably a bolt action.
 
Bobwhite said:
I did not need one, but I sure do like my RWS sidelever in .177. 1200 fps and very accurate. Not the same as a rifle. Not harder, not easier, just different. The basic mechanics of shooting are so similar between the two that I think anyone experienced with one would rapidly pick up and make the necessary adjustments to shoot the other. I do want a nice, but cheap .22 to try out this subsonic ammo with though, preferably a bolt action.
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I wouldnt buy a gun just for the subsonic ammo. Its kind of neat that its quiet, but otherwise there isnt much use for it. A .22 isnt very loud to begin with, and if youre in any yard big enough to shoot rifles in at all, the sound isnt going to be a big deal. And 11 foot pounds of energy is too pitiful to do any real hunting with.

My RWS cracks pretty loud if the pellets break the sound barrier, so heaviers pellets solve the problem
 
check out web sites mentioned above for prices.. not that expensive.... oh yeah, mice fart louder ( especially chilli eaten mice) than my 410e( it's tuned sub sonic).....I can hear the mechanism clink when I fire it. Doesn't disturb anyone in suburbia and with a good back stop, something I can shoot in the back yard without safey concerns and without alarming anyone, definitely a win/win.....
 
Bran, that's the best it will do with me. Don't really know what you mean about smoke- didn't your target pellet guns put them in one hole at 50 yards I thought you said? Tell you what, I'll go outside later and pace the hill off and see how far it was. Maybe there is some smoke.


Sheesh, Bran, when I was a kid I could shoot HORNETS off a wooden fence from 20 yards or more with a bb gun.

I used to think I was a very good shot. There are better. My trick was shooting cans offhand with any big bore revolver at about 65 yards. Don't think my eyes will do that any more.

Rifles are a real problem for me because my eyes are so different since my dominant eye was damaged. I use a field posture; gun resting one my hands with elbow on the table.

I was always kinda sorry I never entered competition.

Still don't believe any decent centerfire shot is going to have much trouble with a transition to a pellet.

munk
 
You got me Bran; I'm a slack jawed, inbred, hillbilly yarn spinner; it's 25 yards downhill to the golf ball and 49 to the 8" post I was shooting.

"give it a try, maybe that's why the crossman in not a tack driver?"

As I said; this not the first air gun I've owned. A 'tackdriver' to me is under an inch, actually, it should be a dime at 25 yards, though I have no idea how air guns or competition even measures them.

I like one inch from a centerfire rifle at 100 yards and under one inch at 25 from a revolver. Sadly, I wonder if I'm letting my guns down these days.

munk
 
Seems like the Rifleman did a write up of Pellet guns not that long ago.

I'm not that good a guy; for no reason I can think of my gang used to shoot sparrows off limbs and lines all day long with pellet and bb guns. One day I got sick of the carnage and quit.

My father taught me to shoot with a bb gun when I was 10.

My best pal found a duck floating in a pool by the Santa Ana river. ( we used to try and pop them with Wrist Rocket sling shots- a real bloodthirsty crew) He shot that darn duck over and over, and I'm going to say from about 40 yards away. (but no longer trust any of my Forty Yard Estimates!) Every time he hit the duck it would quack. I joined in. Pump; quack, pump, quack. After about fifty shots, that duck quacked his last, rolled over on the water belly up dead.

There's a lesson there somewhere- without an outlet for a legitimate hunt or training, we would do stupid things. How much better if we'd lived around adults and a society that encouraged both responsible firearms use, competition, and hunting? No one I knew hunted. That was in another world. We were just stupid city kids in Calif. This was right before drugs hit and the world changed; you can imagine what we did then.

Still, there a bit of Roman Polanski in all of us.
 
my finewerkbau would shoot between an inch at 25 and .5 inch thats
sandbagged in with the works. I can't shoot anywhere near that standing
freehand......
 
munk said:
...without an outlet for a legitimate hunt or training, we would do stupid things. How much better if we'd lived around adults and a society that encouraged both responsible firearms use, competition, and hunting? No one I knew hunted....
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I didn't know any adults that hunted either. My friends and I hunted. The only training or guidance any of us had, besides reading outdoor magazines, was a safety course when we were 15 that was required to get a hunting license.

But we never shot at anything except targets, clays, or legitimate game. We would never shoot at signs, barns, electric insulators, or kill any type of animal wantonly. We knew this was wrong. Nobody had to train us. The voice that told us this was wrong came from within.
 
Why Ben, maybe you're just a better man or boy than I am. We heard the voice, we ignored it.

Bran, my rifle shooting is from a chair with my elbows on the table in front of me.

What are the off hand scores like with a handgun, anyway?



munk
 
I'm not a good shot. But I like to shoot.

Bobwhite, I've got one of those RWS sidelevers too. Mine's .25 cal. Makes kind of a thunk when it hits something
.177 to .25 is like .243 to .45-70. I just kind of lob those big pellets at about 530 fps. It's fun to shoot.

Another fun gun is the Russian IZH-46M. It's a 10 meter one pump pneumatic pistol in .177. It just makes a little pfffttt. You can adjust the match trigger so that there's 1/32" play then you just think hard and it fires. You can usually find them for about $225 used with a red dot sight. Extremely accurate at 10-30 yards. Much more accurate than I am. Fun to shoot indoors with a pellet trap. You can see one here http://www.pyramidair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=581

Munk, I think most kids are pretty much savages. I did much of the same stuff that you did. Until we get civilized, most little boys are just little warriors....I started to write some of the things I did when I was young, but they sound so....heathen.

I'd like to try some of that Colibri ammo. Sounds like fun!

Steve
 
I keep thinking that this pistol with a paintball 4500psi air source would
be a real " ratinator". I'll bet that with the long barrel version and some skirted pellet you could pump it up to 700 to 900 fps. It would probably sound like a cannon going off so your would have to rig a suppressor( legal on air guns guys).

Same thing goes for the twinmaster all purpose with the rotary mag.
 
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