OT: PETA van hits deer, they sue state

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I guess it doesn't surprise me with PETA. Do they have a brain amongst them?

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These PETA folks sound like real morons!

These people really don't know a thing about wildlife. A few years ago the public voted to outlaw trapping in Colorado and this has caused saveral problems in different areas of the state. This just goes to show that people should not make a vote on something they have no idea about. A person that has no clue about trapping or hunting usually will think it is mean and crule so of course they have to put "an end to it"! There is to much of the "I don't like it so don't you do it" mentality in this country!

This is also a classic case of someone suing another for $$$! It is happening everywhere!!!
 
is the deer population actually purposefully managed by the New Jersey Dept. of the Environment so as to increase the population? I'm curious about that - is it true? and if so, how exactly is this carried out? I was always under the impression that hunting actually helped to control deer population (which would be the opposite of what was stated in the letter, in a sense).

B.
 
is the deer population actually purposefully managed by the New Jersey Dept. of the Environment so as to increase the population?

Wouldn't be surprised if there's heavy pressure to provide food during severe winters because "it's cruel to let them starve". One truely cannot please many of these people short of moving to another planet.
 
The purpose of wildlife conservation in every state, regarding deer, is population control. Hunting is a big part of this. Left unchecked for a couple of years with mild winters, deer herds explode and overrun their forage. The following winter sees strays crashing through plate glass windows in towns, large portions of the main herds starving in the hills, and PETA, wanting everything to return to a "natural" state. Their "natural" state is gone. Wolves and big cats took the culls from the herds in the old days, and the tribes took much of their substance from them, too. Hunters with licenses don't equal the total kill of the predators, and people who hunted for food, so the problem continues. PETA is a repository for the cluless, activists without a cause, raised on Bambi and humanized Saturday AM cartoon critters. I still remember the woman who traveled from the East to attend a bow season opening protest in Colorado. She bought a single broadhead hunting arrow the day before, and on opening day stabbed a hunter with it as he was setting up his gear. She claimed she did no wrong, because he was a cold blooded killer. The deputy who hauled her away pointed out that she was still alive, and the hunter was still wearing the .357 he had neve drawn while she attacked. She was unbelieveably lucky to have chosen a hunter who respected women to that extent. I believe I would have shot her.
 
Very well put, Wal

raised on Bambi and humanized Saturday AM cartoon critters

Ever see the clip of the moron who put buck musk allover himself during rutting season and got the crap knocked out of him by a big buck??
 
Hadn't seen that one....of course, if he was with PETA, he might have just been trying to....well....er...make friends?:eek:
 
Originally posted by Don Rac
Gee, so when THEY kill an animal it's gonna be the states fault huh?:rolleyes:

Don, that is the BASIC tenant of radical liberalism - "WE have the good ideas, THEY have the fault when something doesn't work". Including brakes, steering wheels, and peripheral vision.
 
he might have just been trying to....well....er...make friends?

May have been censored, but that wasn't evident...

Wal, the dude's lucky he wasn't killed. He wanted his buddy to tape him deer-wrasslin' I guess...

Of course the idiot fell down immediately and the way the buck was swinging that big rack around rearing up and slashing down with the front hooves, he's real lucky not to have gotten badly gored and have something important inside get popped as well.
 
"WE have the good ideas, THEY have the fault when something doesn't work"

Sadly, that kind of "thinking" seems to have spread everywhere.....The financial version currently evident coud be:

"Privatize the gains, socialize the losses."
 
Only in New Jersey......Wait a minute......I'm from New Jersey.:confused: Hunting equip was too expensive (everyboby knows in Jersey you hunts with your car:eek: ) so I thought I'd move to Tenn where guns and bows are cheaper:D
 
In the end I don't think this has anything to do with 'liberalism', &c. These sorts of questions all too often end up being parodied (or becoming parodies) from both side. It's the 'redneck, thick-skulled NRA gun-toting hunters' on the one side and the 'know-nothing, want-to-take-away-our-rights, do-gooding, zealous liberals' on the other. I think it's pretty obvious that neither of these cariacatures is true (at least not most of the time...;) ) [side note: unfortunately, I've observed that voting tends to break down along these lines - e.g., people will vote for the Republicans primarily on the issue of guns, ignoring the fact that the Repub. tax-programmes only benefit the wealthiest 10% (or less) of the nation. or people will vote for the Democrats based solely on birth-control or whatever; personally I think that there isn't much difference between the two parties and people should start voting for other parties all-together...end of note ;)]

Back to the PET-people and deer in New Jersey - I still don't understand exactly what the Dept. of the Environment could be doing to increase the population...unless they're raising deer in captivity and releasing them into the wild. If they're providing some additional food for the winter, that may well be under pressure from other 'zealous animal-rights groups' (who I have no particular love for - they like to send envelopes with razor blades in them to research institutes, like my dept. for instance, even though we don't do any testing on animals (only people) - they should at least check their facts first....) to do so.

My understanding was essential what Walosi said, that the natural environment has been disturbed by human settlement so that the deer are no longer kept in check by 'natural' predators. So if population weren't controlled via hunting, the deer population would explode (which is exactly what the suit is accusing the hunters as causing); unless some other method of control (deer concentration camps?) were adopted....

Won't that suit just be thrown out of court on 'lack of grounds' or whatever/

B.
 
among or around the people who evolved into PETA who thought naked animals in the wild were indecent, and wanted the states to diaper them. Their offspring were probably driving the van, and will now insist the state provide condoms for the critters. I thought the original idea was great, if the originators were tasked with the responsibility of changing the diapers - first one free on, the state. The idea of some of these people confronting a griz wearing a loaded diaper intrigues me. :eek:
 
PETA is just another example of people why try to be good in the wrong way. Just look at how they treated that husband and wife who killed a mountain lion after it attacked them. They raised a fit about how they killed it. Yes the lion was startving and malnourished but I wouldn't want to be the substance that fills it belly, no way, maybe someone from PETA would want to volunteer.
 
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