Originally posted by CoalBlack
Sounds like they are taking what is clearly an embarrassing incident for them and trying to make political hay out of it. Not to mention going on a digging expedition in the pockets of the State of New Jersey. I don't think they really expect to win their lawsuit but just want to use it to attack hunters and the states wildlife management dept. for allowing hunting in the first place. Remember "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull poop". That's what's at work here.
The court could always decide to fine them for wasting its time with a frivilous suit though.
Originally posted by CoalBlack
Ben, I think the liberal labeling of the PETA people comes from the fact that you will find PETA members are predominately Democrats and that the Democrats will be the ones to advance issues for PETA locally and nationally. Democrats are of course the liberal party, and aren't ashamed to admit it. Hence the label comes from association. But you are of course right, it's just plain sillines.
From an international standpoint, the Democratic party is not very 'liberal' (at least, not in the right areas) - I would view them to the right of the Conservative party in the UK. There are roughly 3 types of political party system - one in which there are many political parties often with completely antithetic viewpoints (Italy, for example); one in which there are a few major parties (often 2), which share many of the same common beliefs/goals, but differ on some important issues (e.g. UK); one in which there are only 2 parties, which in actuality share the same political platform on all 'big' issues and only really differ on minor issues (USA). I'm paraphrasing from a source which I can't lay my finger on at the moment. I think people who think of themselves as 'liberals' in the United States often associate with the Democratic Party - but I don't think that really makes it a liberal party. What is 'liberal' party is exactly, I'm not sure in any case.
It would just seem to me that if the PETA people were really interested in preventing cruelty to animals they would go after the 'meat-factories', you know, the places that raise animals in close confinement and pump them full of strange chemicals, &c. Hunters kill animals who have 'had their freedom' in the natural way, just like mountain lions kill; and like our ancestors hunted - it
is the natural scheme of things. 'Chicken factories' are not natural - they just make chicken cheaper. Campaigning against something like that would be something I could respect. Or they could campaign for issues on the environment, not cutting out the space programme, &c. - you know, something relevant and important....
It's silly on the one hand, but also a bit annoying on the other, when one thinks of it that way...
B.