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Lion's Roar

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Danny,

Gotta question for you. I've been dieting this year, I've lost a little over 20lbs right now and aiming for 10 more. Everything I read says stay away from white rice.. and judging from my own experience, I agree.

I've also read that the rice in Japan is different from what we have in the US.
Is this right? Can you tell me anything about the differences? If there are?

All I can say is that I hardly ever see an Asian woman overweight here.
There has to be something to it.

Thanks,

David
 
Hey David,

Your inquiry dislodged another old memory. Hope you don't mind a slight digression.

In the late 70's, a good friend, Tom Quinn, went down to Duke University to their 'rice insitute.' Quinn was 6'4", 34 years old, and gawd-knows-how heavy.

All the time I knew Quinn, he was an enormous man; quite fastidious and well-informed, but threshold morbidly obese. He went to the Rice Institute for over 3 months as I recall, and came back some 120 pounds lighter.

He went back the next year as well. :grumpy: And, he died of heart failure the year after that. Basically, "death by fork."


However, (returning to the subject,) rice was a main ingredient of the diet down there...along with fruits and veggies...vitamins, and thrice-daily monitoring of blood ? sugars?

Here's a link of sorts:http://www.ricedietprogram.com/index.php

Now...that was 25 years ago or so, don't know if the current regimes or offerings have any semblence to Quinn's program.


I'd imagine that ANY diet, followed scrupulously, would work. Long ago and far away, I did a weight-loss communication program for a company. Seems to me that the numbers were: you need 15 cal per pound to maintain your weight. If you decrease calories, or increase exercise, you lose weight. If you do one or the other, you lose weight.

One of the books I read for the program insisted that the biggest factor in weight loss was changing behavior--not just diet.


All the best,


Kis
enjoy every .... er...
nevermind
 
I lost 116 lbs last year and am continuing to lose weight each week.

You can't diet...

You can't exercise it off...

What you have to do is change your lifestyle.

Rather than going on a diet with a set duration you have to make permanent lifestyle changes that you stick with for the rest of your life.

These changes require Both dietary and exercise commitments.

It's hard at first, but it does work, and it keeps the weight off.
 
I think it's because Asians don't eat the deep fried, chocolate covered rice that's so popular in North America.
 
Bruise,

I saw your name as the last poster on the thread and knew immediately that it was going to be as funny as always.

Thanks for the info. I've been implemeting a lot of lifestyle changes.
You are right, it's a paradigm shift to the nth.

gotta get back to work right now, more later,
 
For the last 5 years, rice has been a large part of my diet. On average eat about 20 Lbs. a month of steamed rice. Usually buy it in 50 Lb. bags from local asian markets. This is by far your best value. They usually have the best selection of quality brands too.

Have found rice to be extremely digestible and nutricius, without causing the undue flatulence often experienced with other grains. Not all rice is the same. Stay away from 'Calrose' style rice. It has had sugars added to it :( With regard to flavor and texture, Indian Basmati is very good, but Thai rice is the best. The California rices and brown rices are certainly good and healthy -but their prices are almost prohibative for daily consumption (i.e. by the steamed liter, the way asians eat rice).

For a wonderful escape from the bland (as most Americans might see it) drudgery of rice, make 1/3 of your total uncooked grain volume a different grain (millet is great for this. so is oats, wheat, amaranth, etc...).

Lastly and this is important. Always Always Always use 2 part water to 1 part rice!!! Regardless of what anyone tells you otherwise. Why? Because that will help you from getting an intestinal impaction/obstruction. This is a rather insidious murder method used by wives to kill their husbands in the orient/asia for centuries. As undercooked/uncooked rice will actually pull water into the bowel and slowly bind you up. To help offset this eat lots of green leafy things and veggies.
 
Rice in Japan is small,and sticky. (like a 3rd grader with an ice cream)
Japanese people are just small.
Also, they starve their kids so they wont get big.
However, they do love KFC and Mcdonalds and they get bigger and rounder every year.
I dont mind, Japanese girls need a little more booty.

Basically, tho, in my opinion, rice is pure carbohydrates and should be considered a source of sugar.
 
BillTheCat said:
Not all rice is the same. Stay away from 'Calrose' style rice. It has had sugars added to it :( With regard to flavor and texture, Indian Basmati is very good, but Thai rice is the best. The California rices and brown rices are certainly good and healthy -but their prices are almost prohibative for daily consumption (i.e. by the steamed liter, the way asians eat rice).
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BTC, how can you tell the difference between the different rices at the Asian Food Stores?
We get our rice from Nam Hai's an Asian market and bought Kokoho-Rose for a long time.
This last time we bought a different brand, but can't recall what it was now.
Barb always puts the rice in sealed containers when we get home to keep any bugs out of it so the bag is long gone.
Do you think the Kokoho-Rose is a Calrose rice?
Barb always uses the 2 to 1 formula so I guess we're safe. I wonder if one could add groats to the rice and if it would thoroughly cook through since it takes so much longer than regular oats?
I would like more info on the rice you buy and the brand and also if the Thai rice is a Jasmine flavored rice?
You can drop me an email if you want. My addy is in my profile.:)

Edit:
Barbie and I both are real fond of the "sticky rice" and we both love Kimchee, me more than Barb though.;)
But I can't eat it as much of the Kimchee as I would like because of the salt it contains.:grumpy: :(
And it's about time for another half gallon from Nam Hai's. cheaper to buy for me as it's ready made and limits the amount on hand that I'm tempted with.:rolleyes: ;) :D
Stickt rice and Kimchee is good and good for you!!!!:D
 
BruiseLeee said:
I think it's because Asians don't eat the deep fried, chocolate covered rice that's so popular in North America.
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you might be surprised Bruise.
They eat donuts for lunch.
"korokke" are also popular. (a handful of almost anything, battered and deep fried and served covered in BBQ sauce.)
 
"Do you think the Kokoho-Rose is a Calrose rice?"

I have seen that particular brand of rice many, mant times in the grocery stores (1 , 2). I honestly do not recall whether it has sugar added to it or not. Not to be silly or anything, but please read the ingredients label on the back of the bag. Thats how I first noted that some 'sweet' brands actually add sugars to their to their product! It was a rather unpleasant surprise.

"Thai rice is a Jasmine flavored rice?"

Sorry, my bad for not specifying it's Thai jasmin rice. Actually in the name, 'jasmin' is a misnomer. There is NO flavoring added to the rice (but some brands may be scented with jasmin?). I prefer this type of rice for it's cooked characteristics and higher nutrient values (i.e. as DIJ so aptly put it, it's a carbohydrate source. In this case, my main one).

"...info on the rice you buy and the brand"

It's tough to find info and pictures online of Thai jasmin rice bags! Here are two (1, 2) brands I have used and like. Currently have a 50 Lb. bag of Rabbit brand, milagrosa extra super quality, Thai jasmin rice, in the kitchen. It has a big white hare on the label and is one of the best I've tried. The advertising hype on all these brands is laughable :D
 
Thanks for asking that question, Lion's Roar.

Good example of what this forum has to offer by way of knowledge if you realise that you don't know something and stop to ask.

Forumites, you don't really surprise me, but I remain in awe of what's in those pointy little heads of yours. ;)
 
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