OT: Rifles, cycle times and BEARS, oh my !

Somebody did an article on it in one of the shooting rags years ago. He was hunting Kodiaks in the alder groves up in Alaska and had a Remington 760 Pump action rechambered to .338-06. Basically that's an 870 shotgun that spits out 250-300 grain telephone poles that would be quite manageble in the recoil and shot recovery departments. Not to mention the bone crushing power and penetration of bullets used in the .338 Magnums.
Always wanted to do a project gun on it, but never really took to bear hunting and therefore would end up being a Safe Queen.
Liked the article.
 
Never heard of this caliber before so entered .338-06 into Google and got this.
Here is the page on Google where the above link was located. Lots more information on the .338-06 it appears.

Sure wish I could retain more of the marvelous information posted here by such knowledgable folks.:grumpy: ;) :D
 
Weatherby seems to be taking a chance on that one. I hope it encourages more makers to take that old girl on! The .30/06 has been necked up and down by amatuers ever since the 20's by such people as Townsend Whelen and Elmer Keith to name only two. Some seem to fill a niche and can be quite the success(.25/06) others like the .35/06(.35 Whelan) die rather ignoble deaths.
Oddest of all may be the 8mm/06. That was a common shortcut for US servicemen who returned after WWII with German Mausers. It was easier to ream the chamber to fit a .30/06 sized case than it was to replace the barrel for most gunsmith's.
Sadly, there is almost never anything new and innovative coming out in cartridge design these days. Magnums sell and every year new ones are introduced only to die slow deaths when they don't catch on.
 
Sutcliffe said:
Magnums sell and every year new ones are introduced only to die slow deaths when they don't catch on.
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Sut doesn't that make some ammo very hard to get? Looks like it would be a good case for learning to reload your own ainnit?:)
 
With that, and a simple reloading kit, you can resurrect just about anything. I almost bought a 1910 Mannlicher Schoenauer in a Pawn shop last time I was in Reno, but there was no commercially loaded ammo for it. Cases would have been difficult(.375 Express), but there are sources for it.

I did track down .450 Martini-Henry from a South African outfit(Owned by really cute girls!!!!) for a buddy of mine that likes to shoot that old monster off on his birthday.
 
Since we are on the subject of guns, something that I got to use the other day may be of interest. We may be 'weaponarily-challenged' over here (to use a social-workerism) but what we do have can be VERY cool. I was at a living history event the other day, had been having trouble getting in contact with the guy who hires out the rifles but he had got my message, when I arrived he said 'oh yeah, I am sorry about the trouble with you getting through, I was away. We only have one Nagant left, but I have been saving it until you arrived, here y'are, take a look at the date on that...'

He held the rifle up (obviously not handing it over yet) and showed me the markings above the bolt, just above an imperial crown it bore the date 1905! He had traced the history of this weapon back from when he bought it from the Bulgarian army, they had bought it from a stash of Russian weapons that had been put in store in 1946 having been taken through the 'great patriotic war' and before that (Because of the markings) he reckoned it had been in service through the civil war, revolution and WW1, not to mention the 1905 revolution. And there was me going into the field carrying this beauty of a rifle that will be 100 years old next year!!!

We are moving house soon, when we do my father is going to get a gun safe and a Section 1 Firearms Certificate, the hireing guy said he will keep hold of that beauty so that we can take it off his hands then.

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On the down side, that is the only image I have of it. It was a beauty of a rifle though!
 
That is a carbine right? Isn't there some M1905 or M1910 carbine or something like that?
 
IIRC it is a M 91/30 rifle but I am not sure of the designation of the carbine. Actually, it is probably more like an M91/05, I will see what I can find out...
 
I was just thinking that actually. I reckon that it was an M91 type rifle that was shortened during or after WW2, well, that is one possibility. I am not sure about pre WW1 carbines, but I know that some of the earlier weapons were shortened (M91/50 I think they were designated) post war. If anyone has any more info about these carbines please let me know.

EDIT: There is an article on the carbine here, seems that the one I had was a M91 carbine. Very interesting article.
http://www.mosin-nagant.net/carbine_mosin.htm
 
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