OT: Smokesticks ?

This is all very new to me. Any recomendations of online stores to purchase this merchandise?
 
$5 for a huge bundle at the Vietnamese market. That's what the folks in Little Saigon burn at their altars. Cheap and it smells good. We used to get the Nag Champa but it was WAY more expensive. Sometimes White Sage if we have any.

Frank
 
richardallen said:
Yvsa, thanks for pointing that out. I will ask my dad, he has been growing lots of herbs in his garden, there's probably some sage as well. I do know what sage is, only problem is that I'm lacking the scientific term for 'white sage'. I'll figure it out...

anyways, how do you light them ? just curious, because I am only used to the sticks...
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You're welcome.;)

Keno the White Sage is a wild sage that grows in California and probably some other western states. It is similar to the tamed sage grown in herb gardens around the world but similar only. The White Sage is much more pungent and aromatic than the standard Salvia grown in the gardens.
I don't know the latin name for it.:(
And there are at least two varieties of White Sage and maybe more. The one in California and our local variety which looks, smells, and tastes entirely different.

I just light the leaves with my Grandpa Bic Lighter.;)

To burn the Flat Cedar and other ndn botanicals the little self igniting charcoals from the Catholic Bookstores and New Age Shops are just the thing.
All you have to do is touch them with a flame from a lighter or match and they will start igniting all by themselves!
I don't know what kind of chemical is added to the charcoal but it sure is handy. You can get them in two different sized rounds, that I'm familar with anyway. One is about 7/8" in diameter and the other about 1-1/4 inches.
If you light them and put them in anything glass they will more than likely break the glass unless a layer of sand or dirt is put underneath. I have a small cast iron kettle as well as an old dutch oven I use for inside and an old No.7 cast iron three footed kettle for use for the Lodge.
I could get maybe a $100.00 bill for it from some of the Peyote guys as they like to tie them up into a drum. I have two No.6 Peyote drums myself, a friend keeps trying to talk me out of one but he wants me to give it to him, maybe one of these years. Not! :rolleyes: :p
 
I got one of the large (maybe 5"x6") alabalone shells and a neat tripod carved of one piece of wood at a powwow...actually build a little tiny fire (in a good way) with twigs and sticks and then feed the fire one herb at a time. It takes longer and demands more attention...which I think is a good thing. It must work...I've not had anyone call to compain about my smoke!
 
Yvsa said:
I noticed that the White Sage was $14.25 a pound and told Barb and she told me to order two pounds of it. Cost me $44.25 for ....
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I couldn't hardly believe it. We had just got in from workout yesterday when UPS pulled up and the driver brought a large Castrol Oil box to our porch and knocked on the door.
It was our order from Crazy Crow that I had just ordered the day before!!!! Talk about quick service!!!!:eek:
The Sage is wonderful, big dried chunks of stems with leaves attached, same with the Flat Cedar. Both smell wonderful too!!!!:D :cool: :D
 
Yvsa said:
...UPS pulled up...It was our order from Crazy Crow...
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Yvsa,
I was taught that if you walk the path of the Elders you must gather your own medicine and make your own magic tools. If you try to buy them, the spirits will turn their back on both you and the person you bought them from.

Are the teachings of your people different, or have they been modified over time to adjust to contemporary life?
 
Ben Arown-Awile said:
Are the teachings of your people different, or have they been modified over time to adjust to contemporary life?
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The same and both, ndn's opinions are like everyone else's.;)
Even the ndns up north are buying the California Sage and the Flat Cedar as it's hard to come by unless you have your own trees and bushes.
I still gather most of my Cedar and we grow our own native White Sage. I just like the smell of these. Our black and white flat Cedars we had both died after several years of providing good medicine. We're planning on replacing them this year.
 
I have a big incense cedar in the front yard that anyone (within reason) is welcome to cuttings (smudges) from. I hear you can make your own incense from it. Haven't tried.

No bad karma about giving it away, is there, Ben.
 
Aardvark said:
...No bad karma about giving it away, is there, Ben.
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As far as I know, bad Karma is never attached to giving, unless there is some hidden motive where the giver expects to profit from it.
 
Aardvark said:
I have a big incense cedar in the front yard that anyone (within reason) is welcome to cuttings (smudges) from. I hear you can make your own incense from it. Haven't tried.

No bad karma about giving it away, is there, Ben.
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Aardvark, what do you mean by an "incense cedar?" Are the leaves real sweet smelling on it?
If so it could be a White, Black, or Yellow Cedar that are native to the north country. I would love to have a Yellow Cedar for several reasons but can't find them at our local nursery's.:(
 
I like the Indonesian Menyan on charcoal cakes. Yum!

Though it is a bit pricey the following site has some good incense:

http://www.somaluna.com/

And superfast shipping.

Hougari Superior Frankincense is fantastic. I also like the Yemen Myrrh and the Sumatran Benzoin. They have sample packs so you can try some others, (I got the myrrh sampler, the frankincense sampler and the resin sampler #2) but the resins are also cheap enough that you can usually get an ounce of most of their resins for under $2, so what the hell, just try a handful that look interesting and see what you like. They also have a lot of herbs if you are into that, but I didn't try many of these.

I have tried resins before, mostly pontifical resins mixes, frankincence, etc, and didn't really like them much, they mostly smelled like burning plastic, but these resins from Somaluna are really quite nice, very nice quality- the real deal.

Have some other good quality items as well. I like the Tibetan bells and singing bowls, but I get them from a friend in Kathmandu, Nepal. The Tibetan metals have a sound like nothiing else on earth.

For Tibetan articles I wholheartedly recommend

http://stores.ebay.com/Silk-Road-Trading-Concern

http://www.silkroads.com/products.html

Jon (father, here in Colorado)
Steve (son in Kathmandu)

They stand behind their products like Uncle Bill stands behind his. If Steve says it is, you can take it to the bank.

Steve Brothers and Bill Martino are the only two people I feel totally comfortable about saying this. TOTALLY honest and Smokin Shippers!
 
I found a shop that's selling indian white sage. I would've bought some, but they're charging 15 bucks for 30 grams. Too much for me, when spring starts, I will be growing my own.

Thanks Yvsa for pointing me in the right direction, although you probably didn't do it on purpose. My interest in herbs has been growing again. My dad has been growing lots of herbs in his garden for a while now, mostly for cooking, but some for teas as well. I always thought it was cool he was doing that, but had no interest do try to grow some as well. Early spring we'll be ordering some herbs together. Thanks.

Keno
 
The only herb I ever used that had any real effect, other than to add flavor my spaghetti sauce, was the one that got me arrested.
 
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