OT the present predicament

DannyinJapan said:
OVer here in japan, everything that happens in the world is a joke. a far away dreamland that has nothing to do with the japanese...today for some reason, i got pretty damned upset about the beheading...at lunchtime, i got really angry and then i cried a little.
I didnt even know the guy.
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I watched the video yesterday for the first time. I was quite hesitant to do so but in the end I watched it.

Like Danny, I too cried after watching the video. Unlike Danny, I didn't cry over the death of the man per se (though that WAS part of it).

While watching the video and listening to the men, years of frustration boiled over in me and the tears started flowing.

I have spent the better part of the last 6 years researching, studying, analysing, critiquing and most important of all, feeling, Arabic and Islamic culture, society and politics. As an Arabic person I have felt it necessary to explore my own culture, to discover it's potentials and in some way, to help reinvigorate it. To bring to light the real potential of the Arabic world.

I can say, with all honesty and sincerity that almost everyday for the last 6 years, I have discovered some new and refreshing insight about my culture and 'my people'. Yesterday was the first time in my life when I felt that all of my discoveries were in vain.

Up until now, I have always felt that, given time, I could make a difference. Even a small difference. Watching these men recite the name of God as a form of hypnotism in order to absolve themselves of personal responsibility sickened me, disgusted me and has left me...broken.

Danny, I am sure that you will understand this point. Through our budo, our teachers have always stress the importance of going beyond the apparent form of what is presented. The most important thing is to find the essence through personal knowledge/experience. One cannot simply copy truth. One has to experience it.

Having experienced a multitude of glimpses at the 'truth of potential' within Arabic culture, I am literally gutted about this video and what these men have done. I do not know what else to say that others have not already said.

By sharing and demonstrating what I have learned, I have always felt that I could be a force for 'good'. This incident made me realise that for every point that I refute or try to educate people on, there will always be the mass media influencing peoples ability to critique intelligently. I feel lost as a result. I once read somewhere that all the spiritual understanding in the world is no match against a missile strike...

I cried because the world will now see this video and will, for all intents and purposes, associate everything Arabic with these people. Given the US's vastly more sophisticated global communications capability, this negative image will become the global standard (if it hasn't yet already become so) for what the Arab world represents.

I cried because these...fools... :mad: (I am seething as I write this) have hijacked Arabic and Islamic culture.

I cried because people will absorb the image of Arabic and Islam thorugh these 'men'.

I cried because I personally cannot compete with this.

I cried at the stupidity of man and I cried at my own stupidity for thinking that I could change it...sigh...


Sleiman Azizi


PS: By the way, I am not a Muslim...
 
Sleiman,

The gang on the tape doesn't represent Islam or the Middle East. They're just the current distillation of Wahhabi; they are nuts.

That was a great post.




munk
 
Hey guys, let me introduce you to a fellow bujinkan nut and friend of mine here in Japan.
Sleiman, take a bow.
Sleiman recently got turned on to Indo-persian weapons and I sold him one of my Gelbu specials.
I guess it really got him interested cause here he is!
If you guys think my ninja info is full of BS, you can ask Sleiman and get a very highly qualified second opinion.

Sleiman is the cameraman voice on the dvd saying "guys, scoot back, scoot back, you are too close to the camera"

I personally cannot stand real violence or brutality. I fast forward through torture scenes in movies.
I want to offer some simple answer to all of this repugnant ****, but there is no easy answer. Brutality and violence are part of human existence.

Let me say that I believe we are making a sacrifice to avoid a catastrophe. If the Taliban/Iraq/Al queda thing had continued for another 10 years unchallenged, they probably would have started a nuclear war with israel, and you know what that would have precipitated. I think we are taking the better path into the future, I really do. Sorry if I sounded too depressed.
 
Sleiman,

Though it shames me to admit it, I underestimated your honor.

Please join our fellowship; we need honorable men such as yourself.

-Dave K
 
It appears to me that radical Muslims are determined to kill any and all Jews,whereever they find them.

Am I missing something, or does it seem border on extreme foolhardiness for a Jew to go wandering around alone in Palestine or Iraq, etc?

The reporter Daniel Perl was decapitated, now this young fellow Nick Berg.

Then again, look at that kid "Johnny Taliban"--John Walker Lindh, a gentile I assume, who was captured in the attack on the up-rising in Masar Shariff in Afganistan. He was accepted apparently with open arms by the Muslim community.

The attack on the World Trade Centers was directed primarily at the Jews in New York with seeming disregard for collateral damage.

I have read and listened to the contempt and hatred that the "Nation of Islam" holds for the Jew and whites in general.

The history of the Jewish people is a history of moving from one culture to another, constantly under duress. But then again,I suppose that could be said of the Irish,the English, and the Japanese, who by the way, had to be dragged kicking and screaming into opening their national boundaries to so-called "western 20th century values."

Is it my imagination, or have Christians and their beliefs been under a full scale assault by Apostate Jews,Atheists, and other secularists who seem detemined to force their views and practices down the throats of anyone who opposes them.

I was informed by a black activist, that the practice of partial birth abortions was pushed into law by urban white females who had gotten pregnant by men of color and rather than be exposed for having an extra-marital affair,chose to murder the fetus. If that belief has validity, then the truth has been concealed under a cloak of political correctness.

Most of these problems, that on the surface seem so complex, really boil down to religious or anti-religious extremisn and greed. Anyhoo---that's the way it appears to me today.
 
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