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I am not making this one up - I read it in the Knoxville, TN newspaper a number of years ago. I was visiting the city and and read:

1. A turkey shot a hunter. The hunter put his turkey and loaded shotgun in the trunk, with a cartridge in the chamber - safety off. The turkey was not dead, it thrashed around, and the gun discharged. Guess where the hunter was hit?

2. I also read this in the same paper - A state trooper stopped a woman driver. His Glock accidentally discharged and bullets hit the woman - two or three times, I am not sure. One discharge was while he was drawing it, and a second one was after it fell and it bounced. As I recall the article, the gun discharged multiple times as it bounced around.

I like Glocks, but wouldn't want to own one. They are great shooters - the problem is that they are too easy to shoot. I know, keep your finger off of the trigger unless you want to shoot, but police officers are supposed to be well trained.
 
Bogus. Glocks cannot go off when dropped. "Accidentally" shooting someone two or three times with a semi-auto?

You've been had.
 
I to severely question a GLock going off on hitting the ground, due to hhow it operates.

I can see him accidentally pulling trigger(strike accidentally and make that negligently), and part of what I do'nt like about Glocks, a safety I can see and feel. Only gun I ahve that has no safety like that and I'm fine with it is my .38, but a double action trigger pull makes sure you mean it.
 
I agree with Spectre. The Glock has three safety mechanisms. You must pull the trigger to discharge the firearm.

See here for a description of how the safetys work.

Of course, anything is possible but seems highly unlikely.
 
from the year 2000 Darwin Awards.



AND FINALLY, Honorable mention: [Arkansas Democrat Gazette] Two local men were seriously injured when their pick-up truck left the road and struck a tree near Cotton Patch on State Highway 38 early Monday morning. Woodruff County deputy Dovey Snyder reported the accident shortly after midnight Monday. Thurston Poole, 33, of Des Arc and Billy Ray Wallis, 38, of Little Rock are listed in serious condition at Baptist Medical Center. The accident occurred as the two men were returning to Des Arc after a frog gigging trip. On an overcast Sunday night, Poole's pick-up truck headlights malfunctioned. The two men concluded that the headlight fuse on the older model truck had burned out. As a replacement fuse was not available, Wallis noticed that the .22 caliber cartridge from his pistol fit perfectly into the fuse slot next to the steering column. Upon inserting the cartridge, the headlights again began to operate properly and the two men proceeded east-bound toward the White River bridge.

After traveling approximately twenty miles and just before crossing the river, the cartridge case apparently overheated; the round discharged and struck Poole in the right testicle. The vehicle swerved sharply right exiting the pavement and striking a tree. Poole suffered only minor cuts and abrasions from the accident, but will require surgery to repair the other wound. Wallis sustained a broken clavicle and was treated and released.

"Thank God we weren't on that bridge when Thurston shot his balls off or we might both be dead" stated Wallis. "I've been a trooper for ten years in this part of the world, but this is a first for me. I can't believe that those two would admit how this accident happened," said Snyder.

Upon being notified of the wreck, Lavinia, Poole's wife asked how many frogs the boys had caught and did anyone get them from the truck.



I just LOVE it!!!:)
 
There must be a few Glock owners here, but no turkeys.
I know how they work - I shot two Glocks that a friend of mine had. The trigger pull was much lighter and shorter than the trigger pull on my Browning. I shot the 9mm and the little 45 Glock. They shoot really well, and the 9 was very accurate, and I found the 45 easier to shoot well than a much larger Colt 45.

I don't know what happened or what the TN trooper did, but it is easy to have an AD if you have your finger anywhere near a trigger when removing a gun from the holster - or replacing it in the holster. Even revolvers have been known to go off when removed from a pocket that has other stuff in it - like keys. This happens when the carrier does not have the snubby in a pocket holster. The risk of ADs gets magnified with a light trigger.

I may be wrong, but I would feel more comfortable carrying a Browning cocked, cartridge in the chamber, with safety off, than a Glock. ....Ditto for a Colt 45.
OF course, you don't carry anything in Illinois, except a shovel for the snow.
 
arty,

A functioning Glock will indeed discharge if the trigger is pulled; no argument.

It will not discharge when dropped.

Glock triggers are typically harder and longer than traditional single-action autos, and shorter and lighter than traditional double-action revolver pulls.

I've kept a weather eye out, and while there may definitely be a problem (especially if you shoot lead bullets in your .40 Glock) with a model or two having KB's (catastrophic failures), in the more than 10 years I've researched and used them, I am aware of NO discharges caused by mere impact.

John
 
I too have never heard of an AD from dropping one(and that's part of nATO acceptance testing, which I THINK the GLocks have passed. I know the CZ-75 passed said testing no problem, and have confidence my EAA CZ clone would too.

the .40s having problems with their unsupported chamers is a documented problem, as is shooting lead in them.

The lack of ability to shoot lead without replacing the barrels is one thing I really don't like about these guns. FOr my handguns I like the fact that I can reload, and save a considerable amount of money($108-$140/thousand saved over local ammo prices, as I figured out for a post on another board this morning). People will then argue that that savings covers cost of the replacement barrel quickly, which is true, but I'd still rather have a gun that out of the box fires anything I might pick up from local gunshop ammo wise. My .38 does that, my WItness does that, my Systema did that before I sold it.

My Jennings won't do that, but it's a Jennings. :)
 
At one point, I had 3 Glock .40's.

Never shot lead, and never have had a problem. Still have the 24. I'll probably get another 23, one day.

ept, at one point, Glock tested their 17 by dropping it from a helicopter onto pavement, with a primed case in the chamber.
 
Is that Glock story like the comment from the guy who was asked about the broken up body at the foot of the stairs "He fell down the stairs, three times!". Either that or the stuff law suits are made of.
 
Hey, I didn't say that I believed the Trooper's story.

The Glocks that I tried had standard and very light triggers. They were reliable and accurate, but the 9 would not reliably feed the last round from the magazine....dirt was the culprit.

The triggers of both Glocks were lighter than my Browning single action. Brownings are not known for light triggers. I enjoyed shooting the Glocks, but would not want to use them for self defense - because of the very light triggers that they come with. They are great for the range, and they are also good for people who shoot them weekly, or more often - I guess. I don't have the time or money to shoot that often, and a lack of sufficient practice could yield safety problems. They are guns for experts.
 
They are great for the range, and they are also good for people who shoot them weekly, or more often - I guess. I don't have the time or money to shoot that often, and a lack of sufficient practice could yield safety problems. They are guns for experts.
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Well, that's interesting, and of course, I would never dictate to anyone what they "should" be shooting.

The truth is, double-action-only handguns- the category Glock is usually placed in- are considered to be the simplest and easiest to use of the various types. They only work one way, so they are considered to be inherently safer than more complicated operating systems.

One just has to keep one's finger out of the trigger guard until firing- which modern firearms training teaches anyway.
 
Anybody here own or handle a Glock 35. Was interested in some first hand experience. Thinking about picking one up. .40 S&W.

BTW, has anyone seen the Blue Collar Comedy special, the part where someone tells Jeff Foxworthy about their brother, who had his nipple bitten off by a beaver? Wicked funny.
 
Can't. Like Ruger semi autos, it has a pin blocker that blocks the firing pin from the hammer until the trigger is pulled.

Keith
 
I have the Glock 24, which the 35 replaced. This was due to the "box test", one infamous gun games test, where only pistols that fit into a certain sized box can be used. The 35 is short enough to fit.

My 24 has a very nice trigger, and is very accurate. My first shot from it hit a (less than 2" diameter) flower at 15 yards. I loaned it to a friend for some months, who used it on the job as a security guard. It recoils fairly softly for a .40, with quick target reaquisition, and of course, it takes Glock 22 mags. My 24 is at the gunsmith's now, having the front sight replaced. Once I get it back, it's what I'll probably be carrying most of the time, when I'm kicking around in the woods on the hunting property...in case of the odd coyote or close hog.

I'll be holding on to the 24, since they're no longer made, but for almost everyone, I think the 35 is a better platform, anyway.

John
 
Originally posted by arty
I enjoyed shooting the Glocks, but would not want to use them for self defense - because of the very light triggers that they come with.
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IIRC, the Glock comes standard with a 5 pound connector. If the trigger seems light, perhaps someone installed a 3.5 pound connector. This lightweight connector is not recommended for tactical use and should only be used at the range.

You could install the so called "New York" trigger which would present an 8-12 trigger pull (depending on variant installed) which duplicates a lot of revolver trigger set ups.

Just a thought.
 
SF,

I don't think arty would be comfortable altering any of his firearms. I understand what you're saying, but no hardware will correct a software (training) issue.

John
 
Spectre - You are right about that one. I own single and double action autos, but rely on revolvers for that "noise in the night." If awakened by a loud noise, and half asleep, I like the feeling of a double action revolver in my hand.

Autos are great when they are shot frequently. I just wish that I had the time. The closest indoor range is 60 miles away. I am not comfortable shooting outside in the snow. It is no fun when your finger freezes to the trigger.

I can pick up a revolver after not using it for 4 months and I can handle it well, and shoot accurately. Autos require constant use - at least weekly practice. I would feel better about a Glock if it had the NY trigger, and I knew that it was totally reliable. The gun is certainly fun to shoot, but it is a firearm that demands enough practice that functioning is "automatic."

Any problems with stovepipes or failures to eject?
 
I used to have a Glock 17L ( longslide ) with nightsights. I used to take it with me when I went to California for the nightsights, back in the 80's, before the ban on hicap mags.

I never got used to the trigger and sold it. Have a S&W 39-2 nickel. Trust it implicitly. Never jammed, and can't remember it not hitting anything I aimed it at. Had an early 59 that finally went through 4 owners and more gunsmiths. Finally got to working after the feedlips were reshaped ( I'm told ).

Hand me a K-frame 2 1/2" model 19 357 roundbutt, and I'll be happy. Or substitute a Colt D frame with my grips. Or even a J frame Smith I've reworked the grips on. Right now I've got to substitute an unfired model 19 4" squarebutt, till I get a smith to tighten the 2 1/2" back up. I done shot the 2 1/2" so much it shakes, rattles, and rolls.

I've other guns, but none I'd rather grab coming out of a cold sleep than the revolvers.

Once I'm awake, it's a different story. If you're going to carry, why not carry both - revolver and highcap auto?
 
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