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arty,

The only problems I've had with my Glock .40's were related to one high-cap magazine with a +2 extension. I got rid of it. I shot Glock .40's almost exclusively, since '95 (most often, a Glock 23).

I joined the Army in late 2001, and shot lots of rounds through rifles, especially M4 carbine, but almost no pistol rounds for two years. In early September, I interviewed with a friend for a job as shooting instructor and range safety officer at a high-dollar shooting school. I fired close to 400 rounds, most of it one day. :) I was using the Glock 17, and had numerous malfunctions. These were caused by "limp wristing", since (1)I was used to shooting .40's, which had a much more vigorous slide action, and (2)I had fired carbines almost exclusively, for thousands of rounds, for two years! I had the problem straightened out completely by the second day, but I had malfunctions too numerous to count, the first day.

My fault entirely, but something to be aware of. 9mm, full-size Glocks require a stiff wrist! :) If one is an occasional shooter, and wishes an auto pistol, I think something like a Taurus or Beretta double-action only in a non-polymer format might be the ticket. Only one way for it to work, and a stiff frame so limp wristing will not be an issue.

Fortunately, I'm past the stage where I think any certain theory/firearm/training style is right for everyone. For me, Glocks typically work well, especially when not in 9mm! :) Just like kuks, it's a personal thing.

John
 
I've handled Glocks and agree that it can't go off when it hits the ground, but it is easy to fire accidentally through misuse. We had a trooper bash a car window open with the butt of his Glock, which them went off and shot the drunken doctor inside... it was the user's fault, though.
I've never liked the Glock's trigger safety, personally. I'm more fond of 1911 style pistols.
 
I have shot the Beretta and I think that our troops deserve better. The grip is just way too large for lots of people - it is too large for me and I have an average hand size. I shoot a Ruger P89 better than the Beretta, ditto for the full-sized Smith 9, ditto for the Browning, ditto for the ... just about anything. The gun is just too big for a 9mm.
I have never found a 45 that I can shoot as well as my Ruger P89 or Browning. I have never tried a 40.
I like autos, but still feel more comfortable with the simplicity and safety of a revolver. You always know that they are loaded, and can check to see if the ammo will work - you can tell if the cylinder will revolve with the ammo in the chamber. You can not tell if you have a bad primer, but you can always just pull the trigger again. I have had only two instances of bad factory ammo for revolvers (out of more than many thousands of rounds), and I could see the problem before loading the stuff in the cylinder. Handloads are another story.
I just feel more comfortable knowing the gun always goes bang when it should.
I use autos when I wish to use them, but still like the reliability of revolvers in CIVILIAN - not military or police - circumstances.
 
Another $.02 worth. (am I up to a nickle yet? :) )

My experience with Glocks has been totally satisfactory. Never had a failure to feed or problem with the pistols after thousands of rounds. The few problems I've had were cheap ammo related and not the pistol's fault. I started out in the early 80's with a generation 1 model 17. Currently I have a 19 and a 21. Both are excellent shooters. With Corbon 115gr HP's, the 19 is formidable. The .45cal model 21 is excellent also.

My sentimental favorite is still my 1911 but I carry the 19 in certain situations. Smaller, 15+1 rounds and very accurate.

Carry whatever you feel confident with whether it is a revolver or pistol. But carry at all times. A gun locked in the safe does you no good.
 
Thanks for the info, I have fired Glocks in 9mm and I like the way they handle. I always like to hear from users as they know whats good and bad. I agree about the Beretta, handle is too large, I personally don't have a comfortable time handling them. Sort of like a khukuri handle that is a little too big or too little.
 
Interestingly enough, I had my first revolver malfunction, from my Smith and Wesson 657, Saturday afternoon. Went "click", no bang. Pulled trigger again...round fired 2nd time around. First strike was almost off the primer. ?

John
 
You can always get a lot of bad primers and so reloads are never as reliable as good factory loads.
Your revolver timing could be off. A first check is to see if you get very little rotation of the cylinder with the trigger held all the way back on an empty - repeat unloaded - gun. You pull the trigger and hold it all the way back, while checking with the other hand to see if the cylinder is relatively tight and doesn't move much.
I would check all cylinders. If there is too much slop, you need to get the revolver fixed by Smith and Wesson.
When you pull the trigger - the locking lever should drop into the revolver slots right at the time that the cylinder lines up with the barrel. If the cylinder doesn't line up right, then you get off-center strikes and you miss the anvil of the primer with the hammer striker. I would have to look at a Smith, but the striker on the hammer could get bent - I just don't have one to see if there is enough room in the frame for this to affect ignition. I have a Smith 22 revolver, but it uses a different mechanism than the center fires.
I put more than 7,000 rounds through a Smith Model 19 before the cylinder gap opened up to the point that I got some spitting with lead bullets. Timing was never off. You can have rapid wear on any revolver if you shoot lots of very hot loads through it.
 
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