OT When t he Revolution Comes...

I like target shooting, and know some adults I wouldn't trust with a gun. However, I have known too many people who were the victims of accidental shootings....these led to blindness or brain damage. In one case - access to a revolver was the problem. The kid thought it was a toy and he shot his sister.

Hunting with your kids is fine, as long as they are responsible and old enough to understand the meaning of life and can understand where bullets go when they come down....the problem is deciding on a reasonable age. I wouldn't want 5 years old kids playing with guns. They still think that cartoons are real.

My view is that all gun owners should demonstrate proficiency and knowledge of gun safety before purchasing guns. This might lead to the building of more gun ranges, and fewer accidents - I hope. None of us has a problem getting a driver's license.
I know the answer to this....we have driving tests, but there are still lots of accidents. But - if we can avoid those newspaper reports of 5 year old kids shooting their friends or shooting themselves, that would be a good thing. My daughter had a friend who blew his brains out - at his home. The kid was only 11, and his grandmother left a 25 auto lying around. Other kids had been picking on him at school...
I have no problem with a proficiency test... I have taken and passed one in NC. I am progun, but would like to see some reasonable attempt to improve safety.
 
Originally posted by arty
I am progun, but would like to see some reasonable attempt to improve safety.
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Gun safety like so many other things should be taught at home by the parents.:rolleyes:

This e-mail I received just a bit ago fits in perfectly right here methinks.:)

People over 35 should be dead.

Here's why ...........

According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 40's, 50's, 60's, or even maybe the early 70's probably shouldn't have survived.

Our baby cribs were covered with bright colored lead-based paint.

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets, ... and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets. (Not to mention the risks we took hitchhiking.)

As children, we would ride in cars with no seatbelts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pickup truck on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle. Horrors!

We ate cupcakes, bread and butter, and drank soda pop with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle, and no one actually died from this.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then rode down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. NO CELL PHONES!!!!! NO PAGERS!!!! Unthinkable!

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo 64, X-Boxes, no> video games at all, no 99 channels on cable, video tape movies, surround sound, personal cell phones, personal computers, or Internet chat rooms.

We had friends! We went outside and found them.

We played dodge ball, and sometimes, the ball would really hurt.

We fell out of trees, got cut and broke bones and teeth, and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.They were accidents. No one was to blame but us.

Remember accidents?

We had fights and punched each other and got black and blue and learned to get over it. (No AK47's)

We made up games with sticks and tennis balls and ate worms, and although we were told it would happen, we did not put out very many eyes, nor did the worms live inside us forever.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's home and knocked on the door, or rang the bell or just walked in and talked to them.

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team.Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. (No AK 47's)

Some students weren't as smart as others, so they failed a grade and were held back to repeat the same grade. Horrors!

Tests were not adjusted for any reason.

Our actions were our own.

Consequences were expected.

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law. Imagine that!

This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.
 
When I was a kid, deer season where I lived only lasted a couple of weeks, so to get a couple hours of hunting in each day, we took our guns to school.

At lunch time we would be in the parking lot comparing guns and swapping stories about the big buck that we saw the day before.

The school custodian, who was also one of three town policemen, would sometimes join us and contribute his stories.

Onetime I had forgotten to bring my gun, so he went to his car and let me borrow his because he had to work late that afternoon.

Imagine what would happen today if a bunch of kids were in the high school parking lot with guns.
 
Thanks for the story, Ben.

I think it illustrates a good point. Up until the 1930's, a seven-year-old, could have ordered and had delivered a genuine cannon or machine gun (if he possessed the money to buy, and the writing skills to write the letter or complete the order form). One could buy a fully automatic weapon at the hardware store.

No forms.

No registration.

No waiting.

No "reasonable" restrictions.

One could also buy dynamite, cyanide, you name it. Oddly enough, the newspapers of the time seem to have been remiss in telling the stories of all the drive-by cannonadings and machinegunnings, and school poisonings that must surely have occurred in this permissive atmosphere. It also must have sadly underreported the incidence of drug addiction, considering the popularity of various tonics containing drugs of all kinds, such as cocaine (at least one such drink became a part of popular American culture, incidentally).

What is especially surprising, is that journalism seems to have been even less ethical than it is today, with widespread exaggeration, and even invention, in news stories. How odd that the surely epidemic problems of this permissive atmosphere were not even reported, much less exaggerated.

Since these dangerous weapons and chemicals are surely the cause of all our societal ills, I just don't get it. Maybe you can explain it, arty? Maybe you can also explain why there is so much less legislation "to protect the children" regarding the demonstrably more dangerous swimming pools in which about 1100 American children die every year?
 
...I think we know how I feel and believe about this one. So I'll just stay on the fringes and watch the show. If you hear any whispers from the back, things like, "cold dead fingers" or, 'your momma," that's just me about to be restrained. Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain.




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