Out of the clamshell and off to CS

tiptone said:
Grrrrr. :(

I've been waiting for weeks for the WalMarts around here to get the new Kershaws in and finally found one that had done their sporting goods updates. I got home took the OD-1 out of the clamshell and promptly rounded off both of the clip screws. T7 was too large to fit, the T6 bit and then rounded the corners right off of the screws.

Is a torx bit screw really the best fit when it's so small there's not going to be enough metal to get a good grip. I'd have this thing in my pocket right now if those were regular screws, or even Phillips head.
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In my opinion torx is the very best kind of screw.
Because it has so many edges you have a lot of metal for a good grip, unlike a Philips head.

I have a very cheap set from Ebay, cost me € 5 and all my torx bits look like new and I have no trouble getting my knives apart.

Just make absolutely sure you are using the right size torx and not a smaller one. Because then you are screwed. :o

I don't see any need for more expensive tools unless you take apart a knife each day.
 
The TORX PLUS® tools are supposed to "virtually eliminate cam-out," even more-so than standard Torx. However:

"Torx Plus tools do not work well in standard TORX Head Screws.
Standard Torx Tools will work in Torx Plus Screws but with a poor fit.
Wiha Recommends using only TORX Plus Tools in Torx Plus Fasteners."
 
the kid said:
I don't see any need for more expensive tools unless you take apart a knife each day.
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For the same reason you would prefer a well made, expensive knife, even if you only use it once in a while. It just depends on your priorities and budget. :)
 
I was once given a socket set that was "Guaranteed For Life." The only problem was, they would cam out after only one or two uses, sometimes ruining the nut or bolt. Yeah, they would replace the sockets any time I asked...with the same poor quality ones. The phrase "penny wise and pound foolish" comes to mind. :rolleyes:
 
Wasn't the idea behind the original torx to eliminate cam out? IIRC, the camcar division of Textron developed Torx to help with robotic assembly, and one primary feature was that the fastener would stay in place on the tool bit. Another, however, is that they could take more torque than hex, posi-drive or philips. And all torx fasteners were to be standard sizes.

How do we know if the fastener is torx-plus before we bugger it up? Sounds like an answer to an unasked question or a bit of marketing disinformation.

I agree you will never regret buying a well made tool. I'd just rather not have to buy twice as many because some toolmaker had to tweak the standard.
 
TORX PLUS® bear only a passing resemblance to standard Torx. At the risk of sound facetious, Torx also "work" in Allen (hex) fittings "but with a poor fit" (and vice-versa). It comes down to knowing what you're working with.

On the other hand, I know of no knives that are assembled with Torx PLUS, so I think you're safe there. ;)

I merely brought up the Torx PLUS to point out there's an option for even greater resistance to cam out available. :thumbup:
 
Speaking of fine tools, Kobalt has been pretty high on the hype/advertising meter lately. Anyone had any experience with them?
 
riffraff said:
Speaking of fine tools, Kobalt has been pretty high on the hype/advertising meter lately. Anyone had any experience with them?
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I was using a Kobalt Torx set when I stripped those screws out. I've got a couple of small air tools and a torque wrench (ft/lb) that are Kobalt that I haven't had any trouble with. I'm not mechanic so these don't see daily usage or anything.
 
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