Outside magazine does survival

Quiet Bear and Hollowdweller i agree with most of what both of you, and others, have posted on the topic of conservation/set aside. I understand both isdes, the ORV folks and the tree folks, being both myself at the same time. Certain areas lend themselves more to ORV usuage then others; as do certain areas lend themselves to being just set aside. The crux is finding that happy medium that let's everyone who wants access use the areas responsibly. We all know what one sloppy fisherman or careless hunter does for our reputations and it's up to us to police our ranks and cull out the bad habit(ers).
 
I think that Outside has advocated the use of larger knives and why would they suggest guns? They aren't a hunting magazine, although they have talked about rifles in bear country etc.

Chad

Never saw them recommend a "larger knife" but that might depend on what you think a "larger knife" really is....

Regarding a gun for survival, the guy with good equipment and a .22 will likely eat better with less effort than the guy with only good equipment!! :D

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Theodore Roosevelt,
Teddy Roosevelt never envisioned four wheelers in National Parks ,
i've never seen or read Outdoor mag., as one of the guys said, "a slick mag" beholding to advertisers and their needs.
here's one for you,
fisherman used to use long , heavy log chains attached to the stern of their boats to slow the boats drift so the fishermen would have more time to cast while floating down the river . the chains were attached to the stern of the boat and dragged along the bottom tearing the hell out of the river bottom an wrecking that ecosystem , at face value this technique was very effective.
when we think we need or deserve public places to run amok, we are pissing into our own faces. the Feds. or State govs. are not the best groups to regulate wild lands but the general public will never be smart enough or willing enough to take over the job of protecting outdoor places.
i for one have several issues with our states conservation department over land use.
so the only real place to get away from the droogs of society is a national park or the like : or, some place that is so degraded and filthy nobody gives a shit about it anymore
what an alternative to wilderness.
buzz
 
I don't think anybody that has posted so far,has actually read the magazine. If they had there would be a lot of critiscm about the actual mag. It was mostly advertising and the story(ha ha) about Bear Grylls was just a bunch of quotes strung together,which looked liked it had been cut and pasted from somewhere else. Cool ad for a Victorinox ST-5000 in there by the way
 
I don't think anybody that has posted so far,has actually read the magazine. If they had there would be a lot of critiscm about the actual mag. It was mostly advertising and the story(ha ha) about Bear Grylls was just a bunch of quotes strung together,which looked liked it had been cut and pasted from somewhere else. Cool ad for a Victorinox ST-5000 in there by the way

Links to the Outside article and interview with Grylls were posted on the forum last week which saved us the expense of buying it. Not that I would anyway. The magazine lost most of its appeal for me in the late '70s.

Teddy Roosevelt never envisioned four wheelers in National Parks

Roosevelt never envisioned that access to public lands, e.g. Federal lands would be severely restricted by wilderness area designations and hunting closures. The National Park system was set up primarily to protect specific cultural or geographic features like the Grand Canyon. National forests were formed to regulate timber harvest and provide for hunting and other recreational opportunities.

ATVs like four-wheelers are limited to existing roadways in most national park units, if they are permitted at all.

GB
 
"The National Park system was set up primarily to protect specific cultural or geographic features like the Grand Canyon. "

Those are NAtional Monuments.
 
"The National Park system was set up primarily to protect specific cultural or geographic features like the Grand Canyon. "

Those are NAtional Monuments.

No, they're National Parks. The National Park Service (US Dept. of the Interior) also oversees National Monuments and National Recreation Areas. They have a different emphasis and management strategy compared to National Parks.

GB
 
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