My question is do to curiosity not need. I am quite well served by the folders that I carry. I use them for cutting things and do not expect them to serve as entry tools or prybars. I am just trying to get a handle on the actual advantages of these super tough folders. My first quality folder was a SOG tomcat (overbuilt original?) and I like the idea of this type of knife but I couldn't really figure on a good reason for them from a performance point of view.All that said, I would really like a Hinderer;-)>