pack opinions

I like the fact that the shelter bag is removeable, and it has a built in rescue whistle in the sternum strap. Reflective piping also adds to the safety features. :o

Its not your average military type pack we see around here all the time:yawn:, but its a sweet design!
 
That looks good, I love the big side pockets and they way it rides lower than most packs.
 
Yeah, riding like that, Id think would make you more agile hiking rough terrain, and put more of the weight on your hips, lowering your center of gravity, making you feel not so top heavy.
 
i agree with t-knife on the big side pockets, they look good to me.

the high-vis features aren't such a big selling point to me...i like to go very low-vis in the woods and tie on reflective tape and other shiny things to my pack when i'm taking them on my bike on the road or when i'm just walking on the road. also, i would prefer to buy my own whistle and lanyard it to the straps than have one built in...

but those aren't really turn-offs so much as they aren't turn-ons.

it looks like a neat pack though that could take a good amount of gear comfortably.
 
1] "Helps reduce fatigue by positioning the weight low on the back...". I'm not having that. If you want to haul load you carry it high. Dropping the load is for stability when climbing over something.

2] It's all about the side pockets. Look at the internal dimensions - 14"*10.5"*8". Isn't that about the size of a cookie tin.

3] It weighs 3.5lbs. That's shocking given the internal volume.

4] "Padded, breathable back panel". Woopie! I bet you aren't going to notice that when you use it. Where are the ventilation channels to reduce contact points?

There's probably more but the above has already killed it stone dead. If I felt mean I'd call it another gimmick riding on the EMT / SAR ticket.
 
I see i like of packs that i like and many that i wish i had if i didnt have one to do the same job. But this pack is awsome. The moment i seen in the pic how low it sits i went WOW. You can just see it was build not so much to carry heavy weight but more for bushwacking. Which i do alot of. Now i need to wish my pack would fall apart so i could get one of them.. which would be a while.. The only thing i would like is acouple of those D rings so i could hang what even i need in easy reach. I think what realy makes them so good looking are the hip belt and the shoulder straps. They look very comfy.
http://www.rescueresponse.com/store/coaxsher_ranger_wildlandpack.html
this one looks good too but it might be too large.

Sasha
 
I think it looks very useful,If I had not just purchased a Maxpedition pack,I would be interested in one..
 
Looks ok, though as others have noted, some things designed specifically for rescue are not the best for regular outdoor use.

You can however buy replacement whistle buckles if you are interested in that feature.
 
baldtaco-II said:
1] "Helps reduce fatigue by positioning the weight low on the back...". I'm not having that. If you want to haul load you carry it high. Dropping the load is for stability when climbing over something.

2] It's all about the side pockets. Look at the internal dimensions - 14"*10.5"*8". Isn't that about the size of a cookie tin.

3] It weighs 3.5lbs. That's shocking given the internal volume.

4] "Padded, breathable back panel". Woopie! I bet you aren't going to notice that when you use it. Where are the ventilation channels to reduce contact points?

There's probably more but the above has already killed it stone dead. If I felt mean I'd call it another gimmick riding on the EMT / SAR ticket.
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1. Its not meant to carry a weeks worth of supplies. I was looking at it from
a dahike/overnighter perspective. With the way the belt is it keeps the
weight on the hips, and supported by the shoulder harness. Given that ive
carried more weight on an LBE setup while in the military very comfortably,
I dont think it will make you unstable.

2. I dont know bout those diamensions, If its the size of a cookie tin, Then
must be midgets wearing it in the second link.

3. Good point.

4. The panel looks alot like my camelback vipes panel, which is very cofortable
and vents well.

5. Statpacks are used by my ambulance service and several others I know of
as well as many fire departments. They are also in service with staff for
life helicopter service, from which I gather they are very well respected.
They are not riding the EMT/SAR ticket, they are what is used. They make
good stuff, our bags have seen years of service w/ no issues, and statpacks carry a lifetime warranty.

Just my opinon though. Thanks for your critique.:o
 
Packs fall short in so many ways, it would be impossible to encompass everything into a perfect pack. I like lots of pockets, but the more pockets the heavier the pack. Then there's the ultralight packs with one honking duffel bag like space where you're screwed if you packed something important on the bottom! And I hated the old school frame packs that have half your load riding above your head. And of course sweaty back syndrome: Sweat all the way up the mountain, then take off that pack in the higher elevations and your back turns to ice. Guess this is why I have like 5 backpacks :)
 
That is so true man. I have yet to find the pack that works perfect for my needs, and I have tried ALOT of them!!
 
j williams said:
1. Its not meant to carry a weeks worth of supplies. I was looking at it from
a dahike/overnighter perspective. With the way the belt is it keeps the
weight on the hips, and supported by the shoulder harness. Given that ive
carried more weight on an LBE setup while in the military very comfortably,
I dont think it will make you unstable.

2. I dont know bout those diamensions, If its the size of a cookie tin, Then
must be midgets wearing it in the second link.

3. Good point.

4. The panel looks alot like my camelback vipes panel, which is very cofortable
and vents well.

5. Statpacks are used by my ambulance service and several others I know of
as well as many fire departments. They are also in service with staff for
life helicopter service, from which I gather they are very well respected.
They are not riding the EMT/SAR ticket, they are what is used. They make
good stuff, our bags have seen years of service w/ no issues, and statpacks carry a lifetime warranty.

Just my opinon though. Thanks for your critique.:o
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1a] I appreciate the dayhike/overnighter perspective. It is exactly because of that I think all that extra on the hip-belt bit is overkill. Given the short duration nature of the pack, and the tiny internal dimensions, you'd need to be packing it with some pretty dense material to make it worth that extra strapping. As I see it, all that rigging has a good portion to do with supporting its own unnecessary weight. My North Face is 35 litres and filled sensibly doesn't need anthing like all that. It weighs 1.5lbs empty and that one is more than double that for much less volume.

1b] “I dont think it will make you unstable”. Neither do I. As I said, you lower load for stability, and that is exactly what this does. My point was it is being marketed as “reducing fatigue” because it does so. That is demonstrably untrue. I become sensitized when I catch a sniff of BS. It's a nasty trait I have ;-)

2] The dimensions are on the page - 14"*10.5"*8" – I trust measurement more than I do any photo.

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4] Cool. My North Face probably has a similar kind of thing. But then it is simple and it doesn't portend to be anything else. My contention is; if you are going to add the kind of weight penalty to it associated with bigger packs why is this left so simple? Sounds sort of mongrel.

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I'll quit there :-)
 
Good points. The straps do seem kind of overkill. I cant comment on the packs comfort, or construction, having never owned one, and probably never will, but I thought it was an interesting pack. Kinda diffeant from the run of the mill stuff you usually see.

I wish I could see one in person.
 
The dimentions dont match the image, I was stating those diamensions listed on the page just dont seem right, makes it really hard to get an idea of what your dealing with when The pics dont seem to match what they listed....
 
I feel the same about Civilian Labs kit. Some of it could be just what I want and clear departure from the norm, or it could be a PITA. Yeah, I'd like to see that in the flesh too.
 
Maybe, I could talk my boss into ordering one for our mass cassulty trailer so I could play with it:D
 
This pack wasn't meant for nature hikes or overnighters, it's specifically designed and built for forest fire fighters and the gear they carry.
 
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