Para 2 sprint tip up rant

Franz_N

Franz_N

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Am i the only one who will not buy a Para 2 Sprint if it's had the clip switched to tip up? Dumb i know, but that mark the clip leaves on the G10 is ugly, the knife could be new otherwise but that mark just ruins the look of the knife for me, man i'm picky. If it's a standard Para 2 i don't mind as much, i have a real user para 2 that's beat up pretty good and has had the clip switched all over the place. If i'm paying from $275 and up for a para 2 and it's had the clip switched it is a deal breaker.

It's not even really that i am a collector either, i would still use the sprint but the mark on the G10 is like an ugly stain on the blade, it's distracting to me. It's something that can be avoided so that's also why it bugs me.

Any of you out there as picky as i am?
 
It bothers me too, for that reason and because I read so much about people that have stripped the screws while messing with clips that I worry that the clip and/or screws might be messed up.

What I really don't understand is when someone buys the knife, switches the clip, and puts it in the safe to not be used. Then later they want to sell it. If there is a chance that you are going to sell it instead of use it, don't mess with it. Leave it the way it came out of the box.
 
My 204P came tip up. Is it the switching of any type, or do you want it tip down?
 
What's up bro, long time no see! I moved to Stockton aka the hood.

It does leave a mark, but in time it evens out in my experience with the grey and smurf. I can understand how it can be distracting like wtf but personally I don't mind it. Other things irk me more like sticky locks etc.
 
There are a bunch that ship tip down and it definitely leaves an annoying mark on the G-10.
It would be a perfect world if A: The knife were available with only one set of holes drilled in the handle specific to my carry preference thus eliminating 1 or 3 other sets of holes. They bug me. But obviously it would be a manufacturing (and personal resale) nightmare. Or B: The knife was shipped with the clip not installed. But again another issue of non-mechanically inclined folks messing up the screws on install. It happens, I've read your threads. :rolleyes:
Until such a time... I'll just enjoy them as they are. :thumbup:
 
Not to derail anything here, but I think the problem arises when we're tempted to pay so much for slab-sided G-10 knives. Some of the sprint runs go for 3 times the price of the VERY SIMILAR standard version. I am at fault for this too, but the root of the problem is these sprint runs really aren't "worth" $300 so we demand absolute perfection from what is really a working-grade knife in a different color with a slight steel upgrade. I own one standard Para 2, and it is so nice as-is (for using) that I will never buy a sprint run.
 
Macchina said:
Not to derail anything here, but I think the problem arises when we're tempted to pay so much for slab-sided G-10 knives. Some of the sprint runs go for 3 times the price of the VERY SIMILAR standard version. I am at fault for this too, but the root of the problem is these sprint runs really aren't "worth" $300 so we demand absolute perfection from what is really a working-grade knife in a different color with a slight steel upgrade. I own one standard Para 2, and it is so nice as-is (for using) that I will never buy a sprint run.
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True and can appreciate your points but imperfections like sticky lock to me and aesthetic annoyances like OP's would still suck if the PM2 sprint was $100 ;) That while accepting that we shouldnt expect things to be perfect. Even the standard black G10 leaves that mark Franz was talking about lol.

These are really good knives and so many people also think so which unfortunately drives up the price for the ones with the bells and whistles like steel and "unique" color. They're very similar yet very different... S90v, 20CP, M390 are at much higher performance levels than S30v. Yes they all cut the same, they are knives after all but you get what I'm saying.
 
nccole said:
My 204P came tip up. Is it the switching of any type, or do you want it tip down?
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I actually prefer tip up, but just so i won't mark up the G10 on a para 2 i carry tip down, that's how they come from factory. It actually carries just fine tip down. Yeah so my issue is just that switching the clip marks up the G10, my beef is not with the actual clip orientation.

FCM415 said:
What's up bro, long time no see! I moved to Stockton aka the hood.

It does leave a mark, but in time it evens out in my experience with the grey and smurf. I can understand how it can be distracting like wtf but personally I don't mind it. Other things irk me more like sticky locks etc.
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What's up dude, oh no you went to Stockton....lol jk jk. Come back to the fog lol. Yeah i suppose they can wear in with time, some colors show it more than others, the digicam ones are pretty good at hiding the mark. I want the orange one and i want it to be perfect, well as perfect as a para 2 can be. My para 2 has had a sticky lock forever and it has a lot of mileage on it. I've had some that were smooth and perfect though.

Macchina said:
Not to derail anything here, but I think the problem arises when we're tempted to pay so much for slab-sided G-10 knives. Some of the sprint runs go for 3 times the price of the VERY SIMILAR standard version. I am at fault for this too, but the root of the problem is these sprint runs really aren't "worth" $300 so we demand absolute perfection from what is really a working-grade knife in a different color with a slight steel upgrade. I own one standard Para 2, and it is so nice as-is (for using) that I will never buy a sprint run.
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Yeah that's another thing altogether, honestly it's hard to justify the price when you can get mid techs at those prices, but it's the only way to get them and there are fewer of those, so exclusivity is where the value is at not really materials and build quality. I like the orange and green one :) For using them purely and not considering looks, the standard ones are all you need.
 
Wow..... I am one to USE my knives, and a little dirty g10 is the least of my concern. I'd probably be more worried with what hat I was gonna wear over anything you stated. The ops post is just too rediculous to read without going " are you retarded" at least once.
 
^^ That's kind of rude. Just sayin' We are all a little crazy, our wives can attest to that :D
 
its a freakin tool ment for your hands to hold. Chances are the g10 will get dirty eventually, but at some point boys become men and stop making big deals about petty stuff like a small dirt scuff on g10.... hell you might as well start bitching about the weather, even tho you have no control over it. If it bothers you, clean the g10 (its not that freakin hard!!!) Hope this doesn't get me another 30 point infraction!!! Lmao
 
The real problem is that the clip is always on the wrong slab in the first place. The only Spyderco I've ever seen done correctly on is the lefty Military. (:

EDIT: Where's my lefty sprint run? ]:<
 
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maskedferret said:
The real problem is that the clip is always on the wrong slab in the first place. The only Spyderco I've ever seen done correctly on is the lefty Military. (:

EDIT: Where's my lefty sprint run? ]:<
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Be sure to at least pick up an extra lefty millie while they are available :)
 
Jastab said:
The ops post is just too rediculous to read without going " are you retarded" at least once.
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But lots of people are that way about condition. You buy the knife for $145 then want to immediately sell it for $300, the buyer that is paying at least twice the price wants the knife to be in perfect condition, not messed with. The same happens with other hobbies- try to sell a gun at a gun show and watch the buyers knock the price down because there is a tiny scratch somewhere, or try to sell other things like wristwatches or even automobiles. A tiny scratch doesn't affect the function at all but in some cases a sprint that might sell for $300 immediately on these forums would take longer to sell at $240 just because somebody messed up the clip, or touched the factory edge to a stone, or whatever.

And I know how that can be too- I bought a used knife that was supposed to be pristine and when I got it I found a few small chips in the edge. They will eventually sharpen out but I could have bought a blem or maybe even a new one for not much more money and not had any defects of that type in it. If I know up front that there are defects in the knife then I want the price to be substantially lower, and whether it affects my use of the knife at all it will certainly affect what I can sell it for later on if I decide to do that or have to do that.
 
If any of you have a "clip damaged" PM2 in M390 that you can't stand, I'll go ahead and take it off of your hands. I'll even ease the transaction by paying AT LEAST $10.00, AND shipping.
 
bdmicarta said:
But lots of people are that way about condition. You buy the knife for $145 then want to immediately sell it for $300, the buyer that is paying at least twice the price wants the knife to be in perfect condition, not messed with. The same happens with other hobbies- try to sell a gun at a gun show and watch the buyers knock the price down because there is a tiny scratch somewhere, or try to sell other things like wristwatches or even automobiles. A tiny scratch doesn't affect the function at all but in some cases a sprint that might sell for $300 immediately on these forums would take longer to sell at $240 just because somebody messed up the clip, or touched the factory edge to a stone, or whatever.

And I know how that can be too- I bought a used knife that was supposed to be pristine and when I got it I found a few small chips in the edge. They will eventually sharpen out but I could have bought a blem or maybe even a new one for not much more money and not had any defects of that type in it. If I know up front that there are defects in the knife then I want the price to be substantially lower, and whether it affects my use of the knife at all it will certainly affect what I can sell it for later on if I decide to do that or have to do that.
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They're two things I never part with, guns and tools. If I buy a gun I keep it hands down no exeptions. Same with my tools. As far as cars go, you loose value the second you drive off a lot. I just think its a bit funny how much such a tiny mark can bother people. Your right tho, I would haggle down the price of a car if it had dirty tire tread. Because I can't stant a little dirt on my tires, so that's at least 2k off the price hahahahaha
 
Mine have all come tip down and I prefer tip up carry so I get the mark also. Doesn't really bother me though. Take a little steel wool or fine sandpaper and lightly buff the G10 so it all looks the same maybe.
 
I agree. With a little "break in", the G10 gets starts to even out. If you want to speed it up, give it a wipe down with WD40 or mineral oil - that refreshes the G10 nicely.

TedP
 
I'm not a fan of the Para, but the general idea of clips mounted in the wrong place on G-10 scales is a non-issue, IMHO. A knife is either bought to use, and the marks left by moving the clip will soon blend in, or purchased as a "collectible", in which case moving he clip reduces potential resale.
 
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