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Paramilitary 2 Lanyard pipe problem

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Frozy

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When Spyderco first released the Paramilitary 2, I was excited and purchased one immediately. As a habit of mine, I dismantled it and reassembled without any problems. I bought 4 more paramilitary 2 because I liked it so much, and none of them gave me any problem at all.
Over the time, the paramilitary 2 became my favourite knife that I decided to get one with an engraving.
I purchased one which was manufactured on Feb 2014 and realized that the lanyard pipe was made differently. I tried to force it out of the handles, only to damage it.
The damage done cannot be reversed, but I'd like to know why did Spyderco chose to make the lanyard pipe differently?
 
The pipe is flared on the ends, possibly to prevent people from taking it apart.

I tweaked mine enough to get it apart, and it is now "de-flared."
 
How did you manage to take the pipe apart? I tried twisting and pulling and even used a plier, but failed.
 
FYI - it means "Stupid is as stupid does." The vision of some guy with a pair of pliers trying to rip apart a PM2 likely inspired that thought.
 
It's a fair observation. If you take apart something that the manufacturer advises should not be taken apart, you really can't complain.
 
Hey guys, I know it's against the manufacturer advice and I'm not complaining about it.

There are two things that I asked for in this post:

1. Why did Spyderco choose to make the lanyard pipe differently?
2. How do you remove it?

The only damage done was leaving a deep scratch mark on the lanyard pipe caused by the plier.
I'm not blaming Spyderco for changing the lanyard pipe or telling their customers not to take their knives apart. I've purchased so many Spyderco knives and have taken every knife i own apart except for those with pinned construction. I even took apart the Laci Szabo because I wanted to share with people in this forum the how mechanism inside looks like and how it works.

I need help, and instead of giving useful opinion, I'm given "Stultus est sicut stultus facit". Yes I know what it means by using Google Translate. I always thought we spyderco users are like one big family, you know?
 
Thanks for the video! Looks like the only way is to force the pipe out of the scales.
 
I think I recall people complaining that the lanyard tube rattled on some models, it does on my resilience. Sal even suggested working Loctite in with a toothpick and let it dry. Flaring the ends would stop this issue, yet make it difficult to take apart.
 
Frozy said:
Hey guys, I know it's against the manufacturer advice and I'm not complaining about it.

There are two things that I asked for in this post:

1. Why did Spyderco choose to make the lanyard pipe differently?
2. How do you remove it?

The only damage done was leaving a deep scratch mark on the lanyard pipe caused by the plier.
I'm not blaming Spyderco for changing the lanyard pipe or telling their customers not to take their knives apart. I've purchased so many Spyderco knives and have taken every knife i own apart except for those with pinned construction. I even took apart the Laci Szabo because I wanted to share with people in this forum the how mechanism inside looks like and how it works.

I need help, and instead of giving useful opinion, I'm given "Stultus est sicut stultus facit". Yes I know what it means by using Google Translate. I always thought we spyderco users are like one big family, you know?
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FYI that can be fixed fairly easily, once you can get the knife apart. You just need to find the right size dowel rod so that the lanyard tube can slide over it and fit snugly. Then put the dowel rod in a lathe (or a poor man's lathe, aka hand drill). While it's turning carefully hold fine sandpaper against it until the marks are removed and it's back to factory-looking finish. Never tried this on a PM2 but it's worked very well on other small tubes similar to the lanyard pipe. Just make sure you have the right grit sandpaper to match the factory finish.

:EDIT: This is assuming that the only damaged part is the larger diameter middle section, not one of the flared ends that fit's inside the handle scale.
 
I managed to force out the lanyard tube and deflared it. I spray painted it black too.
However, i'm faced with another problem- the screw doesn't go into the stop pin after assembly. It got stuck inside the stop pin and there is nothing I can do to unscrew it out. The stop pin just rotates together with the screw.
 
I noticed two of mine were like that when I took them apart to install custom scales. I heated them with a hair dryer and worked them back and forth until I could get a flat tip screwdriver between the scale and the pipe. I then just gently pryed it open until it came free. No damage. I put a thin coat of 3 in 1 on the ends when I reassembled the knife.
 
My trick for popping the scales off the lanyard tubes is use a 0.250" wooden dowel as a pushrod. You can safely use it to tap the tube through the G10/CF scale.

TedP
 
Does anyone have pictures of the tube after its removed ? Can it be redesigned with a better tube or something. I rather have custom scales that ditch the tube and use a pin to attach a lanyard around.
 
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