ParaMillie2 or Doug Ritter Griptillian?

[rpn]

Those are my two favorite folders. The para 2 gets much more carry time as an edc but I prefer the Ritter Grip for my woods/hiking folder. I love 'em both! Sold a bunch of other folders and those two stay.

Might depend what your use will be like.

 

[Mr. Sogetsu]

Paramilitary 2 over Doug Ritter Griptillian. If I wanted a lightweight frn handled folder for around $100, I would choose the Spyderco Delica ZDP189.

 

[michaelm466]

I have a CPM-M4 Ritter, and all three Sprints of the Para 2 out so far, while I really like the Ritter, I still prefer the Para 2 for many of the reasons mentioned above, I would like to get some G10 handles for the Ritter, but its hard to justify regular para 2's worth of money (~$100) just for G10 grips for the Ritter.

 

[jazub]

Lg. H20 Grip is my daily work knife. Sweet knife. Great lock, size, grip, weight.

The Para 2 feels amazing in hand but the Compression Lock can't touch the Axis, imo. -Also, to attempt to inject a little perspective here, this "plasticy handle" stuff doesn't seem to come up 1/10th as much when people discuss the Stretch, Endura, or Delica. Why? I think that if the Griptilian had a dedicated back spacer piece, the "cheap handle" talk would arise far less.

-Don't get me wrong, though: I am not an "FRN" or "Norl GTX" apologist for either company. They are plastics. Put in my vote for a G10 handle any time! :thumbup:

 

[allyourblood]

Also, to attempt to inject a little perspective here, this "plasticy handle" stuff doesn't seem to come up 1/10th as much when people discuss the Stretch, Endura, or Delica. Why?

I think the molded plastic on the Grip series is thinner all-around (or at least it feels like it), so it compresses and flexes more than what a lot of FRN Spyderco knives do. That was it for me, anyway. The Griptilian handle feels hollow.

I think that if the Griptilian had a dedicated back spacer piece, the "cheap handle" talk would arise far less...Put in my vote for a G10 handle any time! :thumbup:

Agreed on both accounts.

 

[crom]

The cutting edge on the para 2 is too short IMO. If not settled on either, check out the Bone Collector series and get the best of both worlds.

 

[meanoldbobber]

It gets joked about in a lot of threads, but if there was ever a time to say GET BOTH, it's now!
I had a yellow Ritter and got rid of it like a complete idiot.
I also have a Para 2 and love love it, and didn't pay much for it, due to the original owner disliking it.
......I see an orange Ritter mini in my future perhaps.

 

[JNewell]

The only thing I'd add as a factor to consider is that the Grip is a more naturally ambi-friendly knife. While both are great choices, personally I'd take the P2 every day and 2x on Sunday.

You simply can't go wrong with either one. There are two distinct tradeoffs, as I see it, and neither one is a dealbreaker in favor of the other, though personally, I lean towards the PM2:

Paramilitary blade-handle ratio. For some, this is a downside. For myself, it's one of my favorite aspects of a lot of Spyderco's line. It looks funky in pictures, but once you hold one, any concerns will melt away. The handle is impossibly comfortable, just the right width, and the length just makes so much sense once it's in use. You can grip the PM2 in a number of positions and each one conforms to the contours of your hand and fingers. I haven't owned mine long, but it's become one of the most comfortable folders I've ever used. The finger choil is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.

Griptilian handle material. This one is fairly polarizing, and judging from these forums, typically, you either love it or hate it. I don't care for it. As mentioned above, it feels "cheap" in comparison to many other folders, some costing much less. The overall design is quite comfortable, with no irritating hotspots and a smooth and reasonably narrow grip. Despite the lack of a blade choil, it's easy to choke up on the spine of the blade with your thumb, for a secure and accurate grip (though, as with some of my other folders, I tend to want to move my finger into a choil that simply isn't there). I just don't like the plastic itself; it feels thin and squishy, like it might crack if dropped or bumped too hard (though this never happened to any of mine in the time I had them). Getting back to what I was saying about the PM2's handle, I just wish the Grip's was a little longer, so my pinkie had some room to hang out and reinforce my hold.

Locking mechanism on each is great, and both are super secure and easy to engage and disengage with one hand. I prefer the narrower tip of the PM2, as it pierces very well and is quite capable with fine tip cuts, like in wood.

But really, go with your instincts. You definitely won't regret whichever you choose; you'll find it compulsory to purchase the other eventually.

 

[allyourblood]

The only thing I'd add as a factor to consider is that the Grip is a more naturally ambi-friendly knife. While both are great choices, personally I'd take the P2 every day and 2x on Sunday.

Does this mean you're left-handed? Oddly enough, I keep seeing lefties on here saying that they carry their PM2 without any issues. I would assume it's harder to open left-handed (it is for me either way, being a righty), but... *shrug*

 

[goodeyesniper]

I have never owned either, but have held and played with both. As well as owning the PM's big brother, the Millie

You will find the PM2 has a non watered down, purely functional, ergonomic handle. One of the best in the business IMO. Obviously comfort in hand is different for everyone, but for a knife as thin as this, I don't think you will find better ergos. The Grip confines you to more basic grips, which is fine for most people. What I don't like is not being able to choke up for detailed work, whereas on the PM2 you can have grips where your middle finger is in the choil, and your index is pressing down on the spine above the hump. Or your index is in the choil and thumb is pressing on the hump. Or for pull cuts you hold it in reverse, with thumb in the choil and index on the jimping at the hump, etc... etc.... Or you can just hold it on the handle for basic work. I hate EDC knives that give you no option of getting right up under the blade.

 

[gordolindsay]

Another vote for Pm2. I was able to play around with both knives just a couple days ago. I put the grip down after ~4.5 seconds. The PM2 on the other hand, was not able to be removed from my hand.

*That was the regular grptilian, not the Ritter blade FWIW.

 

[dark impaler]

Try both in hand and see which feel better. If you can't do that, at least be clear on intended purpose of the knife.

Had several versions of the Para 2 and it was good for light use edc, cutting up boxes, paper and things around the office. Used it sparingly on camping trips and it sufficed, but I was only cutting up food and more processed wood products, ie. plates.

Seems the DR Grip is marketed more for the outdoors, but I'm sure it will more than function as an edc.

They'll both slice, so it may come down to which design (and lock type) you favor. Good luck with your choice.

 

[JNewell]

What I meant principally was that a symmetric lock will always be more naturally ambi, but yes, I am mostly LH I can use the Para with either hand, but I don't really like the LH MOA. Even so, I would still take the Para, and by a big margin.

Does this mean you're left-handed? Oddly enough, I keep seeing lefties on here saying that they carry their PM2 without any issues. I would assume it's harder to open left-handed (it is for me either way, being a righty), but... *shrug*