Pellet Guns

The forestock of the Crosman 1377 has a hinge at the muzzle end. You pull it away from the gun at the other end and move it through over 90 degrees and back, one to ten times. I only give it one pump for indoor shooting, but if you want to shoot at longer range or kill a rat or something you can give it up to ten pumps. It takes very little effort to pump it, much easier than cocking a spring gun, and unlike a spring gun you don't feel any recoil.

I should probably explain this is a pistol I'm talking about ... it has a long barrel with a forestock under it. The forestock and the pistol grip are both plastic with a cheesy looking imitation wood grain. It would look better if it were just plain black plastic, IMHO.
 
The best part about the Crosman 1377 is that you can get a stock for it and turn it into a very handy little rifle. I've got one and it's very accurate and can take birds and even a rabbit if you take careful aim. Pump it about 4 times and use flat point pellets and it wont penetrate much, theres even felt pellets that you can shoot to clean out your gun or practice indoors without making holes in stuff. You can get them in almost any sporting goods store for about 50bux.
 
Here's my entire air gun history.

1967 Marksman .177 pistol (smoothbore; looks like a 1911) ~150 fps
1970 Crosman .177 CO2 rifle (pellet inserted vertically into loading knob; knob rotated 90 degrees) ~550 fps
1971 Wischo 55N .177 rifle ~775 fps
1972 Weihrauch .177 HW35 rifle ~750 fps
1975 Benjamin .22 rifle ~700 fps

The Wischo and Weihrauch were purchased from Air Rifle Headquarters. They are the only air guns I own today. The Benjamin was a step backwards but I wanted a cheap .22 to experiment with.
 
I'm considering getting a CP99 (Walther builds them on a slightly modified P99 frame.) very heavily, I found a place that sells them for 120. I'm doing a tactical shooting course in LA for a day as part of a Krav Maga seminar with Mr. Levine. Being 18, I cannot buy a real P99 yet :P so I figure I could get a decent holster and this and set up some silloute targets up in the hills to practice with. (I know of a small box canyon thats *very* stable, and there is very small likily hood of something escaping it (about 30 feet deep.) Anyways, looked good to me. What are yalls impressions with it? (Where could I get a cheap shoulder holster, and double mag holster (for Co2 mags), as well as a dump pouch for the 8 round rotatry magazines?

Thanks in advanace,

John.
 
I took a trip to my local sporting goods store yesterday to see what they had in the way of pistols. Basically it was either a Walther model, a Benajmin model, or a Powerline .22. The Powerline 622X was $60, so I picked it up to give it a try. So far it seems unimpressive, but I only put a few rounds through it this afternoon. The only thing that seems to be lacking to me is accuracy, which might just be me needing to get used to the gun. I did notice toward the end of my session (about 40 rounds) that my placement was getting better.

The other problem that I have with it is that it is C02 powered. As the cartridge empties out the shots have less and less power with them. This was something that I was not used to, having fired spring action pellet rifles before.
 
I have had a 1377 with the optional stock for almost 20 years now and it's a great little rig for what it is. Don't expect much knockdown power though. It hardly ever gets touched anymore since my two Beeman rifles joined up with me 3 years ago! :D I know this discussion is more towards pistols, but I've sold 5 other guys on high performance air rifles after seeing what they are capable of. I've always wanted a Tempest but I just haven't pulled the trigger yet (pun intended!)
Cris
 
You won't be disappointed with the Tempest. Definitely one of the better $150 investments I've made !!!
 
Somewhat quieter than my RWS and Feinwerkbau rifles. It is a spring mechanism so there is some noise, but the "slap" of the pellet hitting a cardboard box is louder than the discharge noise.
 
Save your money for a extra month and get an IZH46M for about $250 ( 180-200 used).

The IZZY is a single pump pneumatic that has same hole accuracy at 10 meters ( 33 feet).

It shoots at about 470 ft/sec. It is quite quiet and easy to pump. ( the pump mechanism makes it a bit front heavy).

It is by far the best buy for an accurate target air pistol. The next step up ( Pre Compressed Air) typically goes for $1000 and the accuracy of the advanced APs is basically the same as the IZH. The advantage of the precompressed guns is that they are lighter, better balanced, and consequently less fatiguing to use for a sixty shot match.

--Jerry
 
Wal-Mart is the hookup for the beginner-airgunner.
Quite a selection to make your basement much fun, and prices are better then the websites linked above.
 
Thanks Jerry!
The Izzy sounds (and looks like a winner!) I'm gettin' me one! I adore my R9 and RX1 and have been kicking around the idea of a pistol but never really looked too far because I was only seeing stuff in the $1000-2500 range for match guns.
out,
Cris
 
The Beeman P-3 has a much better trigger than the Tempest. have two of them and they are really accurate. I have heard that IZH46M a super gun though, might want to listen to Gray Fox on this one. This is where I have bought all my airguns http://www.straightshooters.com/ These guys are great to deal with and they have better prices than most.
 
Straight Shooters is normally pretty competitive on price and offer service before and after the sale that I haven't seen matched. I've personally purchased 3 air rifles from them and was extremely pleased. I shop there even when they aren't the lowest price around because a I know they will be around to support me if I ever need service. Don't be penny wise and pound foolish ;)
 
I've dealt exclusively with Craig and Kevin for years and wouldn't think about going anywhere else. They are the BEST!
 
A favorite for years and good value for money is the Daisy 717.

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The Daisy 717 is a single pump/stroke pneumatic - so it is recoiless - and it is the cheaper base model for the Daisy Avanti 747 match/target pistol.

http://daisy.ifworld.com/cgi-bin/daisy/products_powerline_pistols.html

It is low priced at about ~$72

Note: Most air pistols are pretty low powered about ~2 to 3ftlb muzzle energy - which is only adequate for small birds.
 
I've had a Webley Hurricane, which is almost exactly the same as a Tempest except for better sights and a longer barrel, since I was 16 or 17. I'm 41 now and I just used the gun to finish off a HUGE rat my cat crippled in my back yard. So, I guess it's safe to say the thing is pretty durable.

It's certainly accurate enough for informal target practice. As noted elsewhere, it's trigger could be better, but its not bad. Actually better than most real guns I've shot!

Power is o.k. Can't compare to a good air rifle. But, in a way this is good. I don't want to be firing a gun that can do a lot of damage in my garage!

It's a little hard to cock for a kid or a woman, but an average guy should have no problem if he uses the right technique. The gun even comes with a scope mount. It looks rather futuristic, and I've seen many Hurricanes used as "laser pistols" in movies.

I got mine from Beeman's. I can tell you this: when I shot that thing regularly, it really helped my marksmanship. I later worked as an armed guard, and once I even managed to get a perfect score while requalifying for my license, due in part to practicing a lot with those inexpensive .177 pellets!

Bruise
 
Anyone here have one of those Chinese spring powered air rifles I always see advertised in the Shotgun News and Gun List? I think they are side-cockers or under-barrel cockers. I think they look kinda like SKS rifles - I assume the Chinese Army used them to train their recruits. They seem pretty powerful and cheap - a European sidecocker like a FWB will set you back some major bucks. I'm not expecting these Chinese cheapies to be in that league, but if they are servicable like the SKS I may want to pick one up. Don't know a single guy who has one, though.

Bruise
 
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