People who don't reply to e-mails - BAD!

Wulf

Wulf

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Many of you may have seen my post in for sale about the Broadwell Subhilt. Well, I received numerous inquiries via e-mail and was very diligent in responding to all, answering questions, etc. The knife was promised to, and held for one gentleman who said he would buy it, but he never responded to my final e-mail confirmation. The same thing happened with another guy after I had given up on the first - I held the knife for several more days, telling other interested parties that it had been spoken for, and never received a response from him either. I don't even know their forum names as they did not post to my thread.

Anyway, the point of this post is not to trash anyone; I just want to whine a bit, and this audience may be more receptive to this gripe than the folks in Whine & Cheese...

When people say "yes, I'd like to buy the knife," then they should indeed buy the knife. That's why, in many respects, I prefer E-Bay, as bids stand firm and you can't back out without good reason. Which is precisely why the Broadwell will be sold there instead. Enough of this dilly-dallying on Bladeforums...
 
I agree 100 per cent. If i say I will buy a knife, I will buy that knife! And if someone tells me that they will buy a knife I have for sale, I would expect the same courtesy. Tire kickers go a way!
 
i agree completely with you wulf....i have also had people who say they want the knife and agree to the asking price and then try to lowball me into a deal we had not mutually agreed upon...either way it chaps my ass....thanks...feverdoc
 
I had one person help me waste a day e-mailing back and forth, back and forth. I gave that person everything they needed to make a decison, only for me to open my mail the next day and get told "I changed my mind, I've been spending way too much money on knives." To my way of thinking the time for that was the 2nd or 3rd e-mail, not the 9th or 10th.

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hey wulf, long time no talk...

ebay is not foolproof. actually, there are a lot of fools there. the first auction i ever did, to sell a monitor, a kid won, than tried to get me into some b.s. payment plan after the auction closed. then he gave me negative feedback to boot.

the forums are cheaper (free) and in most cases much faster. i posted 13 knives this weekend and already have sold 7.
and out of all the knives i've sold, i've only had a problem with one guy.

anyway, my point is i feel almost all of the the people here are righteous, you've had a run of bad apples, combined with a knife that is not all that hot right now.
 
sdesarno is correct. Most folks here are good people and know how to conduct themselves appropriately. It is possible that those who made inquiries are not even forum members at all. Perhaps just curious window shoppers.
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SD (Steve) is right Wulf... Take it from a guy that buys a lot of knives on this forum. Most of the people on here (the forum) are righteous. You are always going to get a couple of jerks, but usually you can pretty much tell who they are by the e-mails they send you. I will tell you if you get a bad name, you will be surprised how fast the news travels in our little knife world. That is what this part of the forum is for... To warn our fellow formites about bad apples.

I have been very lucky so far on the forum, buying, and selling. I have not been burnt yet! You also get to know a lot the guys, and you start falling into a click... Buying, and selling to the same guys mostly.

Well Wulf, I wish you luck in your future deals. Take care!

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BTTT (28 months later) because it seems some people still need a gentle reminder now and then that common courtesy and business etiquette do not end at the keyboard.

I had some e-mail exchanges with a fellow earlier today. This good gentleman inquired about a few knives I currently have posted. After I answered a few questions, he politely told me that he was not interested. No problem. And now, I may actually end up buying a knife from him. That would have never happened had he not kindly replied to my e-mail. This is how it's supposed to work, folks. :)




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I was interested in a trade with a forumite (#1) for a knife, and sent an email, also posted "you have mail". I never heard from him. I then added another knife to my trade offer to sweeten the deal...still no reply. A couple of days go by, and another forumite interested in the same knife (forumite #2) sends me an email asking if I ever got a response from #1. No, I told him. He tells me he's interested in the same knife, but offering cash where I had offered a trade.

Forumite #1 then says he probably won't keep the knife, but by the way, exactly what did you offer to #1 as a trade? I told him, and said I'd be interested in trading those knives for the one he acquired (that I originally wanted). Think this bonehead has the courtesy to reply? Heck no!:mad: It bothered him enough when #1 wouldn't respond to his emails , but then turns around and does the same thing to me. Hey #2....here's a clue: I've heard and seen "Thanks, but no thanks" before, and I'll tell you it's not life ending. :rolleyes:

A little courtesy is all most folks are looking for. Boorish behavior like this is really unnecessary. geegee
 
It's extremely annoying to not get email replies. I have had a few forum members that had good feedback not reply back about a Deal after repeated emails from me. I kind of tears it with me and just won't deal with those people anymore....even if they have something I want realy bad and the price is right.
I also don't understand why people won't reply at the end of a Deal either????? For example; send an email that says "hey I got such and such and it's great, thanks for the deal and hope to deal more in the future" and they never send you a reply just to acknowledge the END of a Succesful deal. A scenario like that kind of tears it with me too. A few people have been added to the "I won't deal with them anymore" list due to lack of courteousness.....
 
I agree that a reply is common courtesy and necessary most of the time. However, I do feel it is my right not to respond if you are wasting my time. If I post specifically NEED CASH, ABSOLUTELY NO TRADES and you send a trade offer, I might not respond. Likely, I will, but courtesy goes 2 ways. At times, people need money to pay bills and do not want to be tempted with trades. Don't waste their time with trade offers. If you do, then don't get mad when they don't respond. I always list what I am looking for (cash and or trades that would be considered) on my for sale posts. And I do generally respond to e-mails offering items not listed. But I don't feel it's necessary and the person sending those offers shouldn't be offended if I simply delete the e-mail after reading it. Just my opinion.

JR
 
Originally posted by woody
I also don't understand why people won't reply at the end of a Deal either????? For example; send an email that says "hey I got such and such and it's great, thanks for the deal and hope to deal more in the future" and they never send you a reply just to acknowledge the END of a Succesful deal. A scenario like that kind of tears it with me too. A few people have been added to the "I won't deal with them anymore" list due to lack of courteousness.....
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Me too. There's a few people around here who I never heard from again after sending them my end of a trade/sale, and a follow-up email. Never heard from them, and will never deal with them again. That's why I always use delivery confirmation...at least it lets you know your package got there, and gives a little peace of mind when you can't get a reply from the person you're dealing with. Trading should be fun, not stressful.

edit: just saw Jeremy's post, and agree wholeheartedly with that, too.
 
A little courtesy is all most folks are looking for. Boorish behavior like this is really unnecessary.
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Well, the forumite I was referring to read this post and sent me an email to explain what happened, and why I received no email from him. It honestly appears to be a techno-glitch of some sort. I think most of us can tell when someone is trying to blow smoke up their skirt with an explanation, and I don't sense that at all here. I'm sure it was an email problem, pure and simple.

Thanks, Mike for taking the time to explain what happened. Hope we have a chance to do business together down the road. :) geegee
 
By now most of us members here should realize that this type of behavior is not uncommon. While there are times when a deal was never struck (therefore not broken), it is pretty simple to keep your own "list" of those who have shown such behavior. With many hundreds of transactions completed on this forum, I have kept a "list" of my own.

Recently I repsonded with an inquiry for 2 blades offered on this forum. It was agreed I would get first right to refusal. I made an offer that he would agree to. And after getting the necessary info/ specs that I needed, immediately e mailed to confirm a done deal and provided my mailing info. A day later and no response. Not wanting to possibly rush the other party and thinking that he may be busy with work, or have taken ill or any other emergency, I did not e mail again til the next day- AFTER I saw that this member marked his original post as "deal pending" soon after another member posted an inquiry!! He responded that he never got my mailing info. And that he tried e mailing me. Then he states that HIS sent mail bounced. He then incredulously concluded that he thought I was just another flake and just wasting his time since he got no response! Does this individual know how e mail operates??? And this all came from a new member on this forum. I even offered him a way to correct the matter. But no response since. Lack of experience... probably. Screw- up... definitely.

Some other (lucky) member here is soon to receive 2 nice vintage Boy/ Cub Scout folders. ;) Sorry nephew. :(
 
I have to agree it's pretty rude.

For example, in the past week I responded to two different members who had posted in "knives, wanted to buy" and yet neither has offered the courtesy of a reply or respose via email.

What goes around comes around, I figure.
 
Blues,

I agree it is very frustrating. Especially when it is a ligitimate e-mail based upon what the other member wanted. However, before people go writing off the people who don't respond to the e-mail they send, remember that technology is not perfect. This past week, while in the process of completing 2 deals on the forums, I e-mailed both parties to ask if the knife in one case and MO in another had been received. Got e-mails back from both parties shocked that I had asked because both had sent me an e-mail the night before to let me know the stuff had arrived. Both of these are excellent members of this cummunity who are great about keeping in contact over deals. They weren't lying to me, there was simply an e-mail glitch on one end or the other at those times. This is why I generally give my phone numbers out when doing a deal with people. If the person sends a couple of e-mails without response, they can call me and find out what's going on. Sometimes I get really busy or the server for the university goes down and it takes me a couple of days to respond. I think too often is the world of immediate communication, we expect everyone to communicate back immediately. There is life off of the computer, and I think people should be given the benefit of the doubt until proven they don' deserve it.

JR
 
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