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Forgive my ignorance, but are there any advantages or particular uses for persian style or upswept blades such as CS scimitar, emerson's and spyderco's persian? I really like the looks, but i wonder about the advantages of that balde shape...
 
They have lots of belly, which makes them excellent for slicing. The upswept tip, however, reduces their capacity for general utility, as it's not designed for such tasks as slipping the tip underneath a tied rope, or a cable tie, for example.

They make great skinners, if you're a hunter.
 
puukkoman said:
They have lots of belly, which makes them excellent for slicing. The upswept tip, however, reduces their capacity for general utility, as it's not designed for such tasks as slipping the tip underneath a tied rope, or a cable tie, for example.

They make great skinners, if you're a hunter.
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thank you - it makes sense
 
The reason I was told years ago that short upswept blades were dangerous is because in a quick frontal attack you can penetrate up under the ribs and to the heart. However, I am pretty sure I learned this from the movies :)
 
brownshoe said:
The reason I was told years ago that short upswept blades were dangerous is because in a quick frontal attack you can penetrate up under the ribs and to the heart. However, I am pretty sure I learned this from the movies :)
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3/4 of everything i know i learned from the movies - it might not be the best method academically, but it is the least painful one :D
 
The reason the Persian blade has that shape is because it facilitates slashing and\or draw cuts. Most old time knives were developed with either slashing or thrusting(poniard,Japanese dagger,etc.) in mind and designed accordingly. Some of the Persian shapes are double curved which creates a belly for slashing and brings the point back up in line with the handle for a more powerful thrust. The Emerson Persian has the edge bevel on the wrong side for a right handed person, don't know why they did that.
 
Having studied MBC with lots of different instructors, I've hear many arguments for various blade shapes. The wharncliffe shape seems to be the best for cutting tests in meat. I like it , but there's something about the Persian shape that I dig. Any SD advantages of this blade shape?
 
Excellent for combating multiple opponents simultaneously with the ability to go from one swing to another in a smooth continuous 8 pattern and out while requiring less exertion and power.

Um, easier to dual wield?
 
kalis said:
The reason the Persian blade has that shape is because it facilitates slashing and\or draw cuts. Most old time knives were developed with either slashing or thrusting(poniard,Japanese dagger,etc.) in mind and designed accordingly. Some of the Persian shapes are double curved which creates a belly for slashing and brings the point back up in line with the handle for a more powerful thrust. The Emerson Persian has the edge bevel on the wrong side for a right handed person, don't know why they did that.
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Backward bevel for pull cuts like a sickle? Cut inwards like a Kukri..
 
musashipug said:
Having studied MBC with lots of different instructors, I've hear many arguments for various blade shapes. The wharncliffe shape seems to be the best for cutting tests in meat. I like it , but there's something about the Persian shape that I dig. Any SD advantages of this blade shape?
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Asking questions of people in a thread that has not been posted in for 10 years! Holy Necrothread batman!
 
Holy decade, Batman. Ha ha ha.

Guess the subject can now be updated. Saladin's damascus sword was said to be one of the deadliest, sharpest swords of its time never to be recreated. Almost, I think, but no.
 
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