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hey t1mpani,
I think your perspective is excellent and true ... but only if the show is being watched in that way. I just don't think shows like CSI are being watched for the moral at the end of the story.
I think they are being watched *because* of the rape scenes, the violence, etc, which is ok if you are an adult and you choose to do so.
Yes, we humans absolutely have an obsession with the dark side of things, and that is ok.
But the 12 year old girl gets screwed when she happens to walk into an empty living room, with the tv on and a rape occuring. Maybe she watches until the end to see the bad guy get punished. Or maybe she is hardly even aware of what she is seeing because she sees violence all the time.
The problem I have w/a tide commercial immediately following a horrific rape scene is that of the two, the tide commercial is the less realistic of them both. Some product is not going to make your life better, not by leaps and bounds anyway.
And, more importantly, to go from a rape scene to doing your laundry is too extreme. It completely disregards what was just depicted happening to an innocent human being to sell you some crappy product.
It is slowly getting to the point where the "programs" are there simply to get you to watch the commercials. And even now, the programs themselves are commercials ... just watch as the cops walk up to their cruiser with a latte in one hand, a pepsi in another.
If I recall correctly, the whole reason commercials were tolerated was because it kept down the cost of paying for the tv. Local channels are supposed to be free, but you have to watch commercials. That is a fair trade.
So why am I paying for cable AND having to watch commercials? Why do I pay $10 to go to the movies, and there is no soap in the men's room, AND I have to watch commercials.
Same with the radio ~~ "And now, we're doing 2 songs, Back 2 Back, commercial free. Try and find that on the 'other' station..."
If CSI (and all the rest) want to portray such nasty stuff, and do it at any given time of day, then make it commercial free, so the kids can watch the whole thing and see that it is wrong, and social justice (sometimes) happens in the end.
It is a tough topic. In the end, I think parental and individual responsibility is the main thing that will change or protect anyone/anything. I don't know that I want to see more restrictions on free speech, but if you go to europe you'd find that they have a lot less commercial time than we do.
As a society we have rolled over and began sucking on the giant nipple of the ad agencies. (Damn you Ad Astra!!!
) So what do they do? Put in a bigger nipple. And we continue to suck, or most of us do anyway...
As has already been mentioned, it is mainly our own fault, somewhere down the line.
Bamboo
I think your perspective is excellent and true ... but only if the show is being watched in that way. I just don't think shows like CSI are being watched for the moral at the end of the story.
I think they are being watched *because* of the rape scenes, the violence, etc, which is ok if you are an adult and you choose to do so.
Yes, we humans absolutely have an obsession with the dark side of things, and that is ok.
But the 12 year old girl gets screwed when she happens to walk into an empty living room, with the tv on and a rape occuring. Maybe she watches until the end to see the bad guy get punished. Or maybe she is hardly even aware of what she is seeing because she sees violence all the time.
The problem I have w/a tide commercial immediately following a horrific rape scene is that of the two, the tide commercial is the less realistic of them both. Some product is not going to make your life better, not by leaps and bounds anyway.
And, more importantly, to go from a rape scene to doing your laundry is too extreme. It completely disregards what was just depicted happening to an innocent human being to sell you some crappy product.
It is slowly getting to the point where the "programs" are there simply to get you to watch the commercials. And even now, the programs themselves are commercials ... just watch as the cops walk up to their cruiser with a latte in one hand, a pepsi in another.
If I recall correctly, the whole reason commercials were tolerated was because it kept down the cost of paying for the tv. Local channels are supposed to be free, but you have to watch commercials. That is a fair trade.
So why am I paying for cable AND having to watch commercials? Why do I pay $10 to go to the movies, and there is no soap in the men's room, AND I have to watch commercials.
Same with the radio ~~ "And now, we're doing 2 songs, Back 2 Back, commercial free. Try and find that on the 'other' station..."
If CSI (and all the rest) want to portray such nasty stuff, and do it at any given time of day, then make it commercial free, so the kids can watch the whole thing and see that it is wrong, and social justice (sometimes) happens in the end.
It is a tough topic. In the end, I think parental and individual responsibility is the main thing that will change or protect anyone/anything. I don't know that I want to see more restrictions on free speech, but if you go to europe you'd find that they have a lot less commercial time than we do.
As a society we have rolled over and began sucking on the giant nipple of the ad agencies. (Damn you Ad Astra!!!
) So what do they do? Put in a bigger nipple. And we continue to suck, or most of us do anyway...As has already been mentioned, it is mainly our own fault, somewhere down the line.
Bamboo
