Petrified Fish

Skogsnatt said:
Yeah, I am into aesthetics, and I haven't seen as cool ones from the brands you mentioned. That PF Warrior in green/black G10 is cool for me. I just don't want it go rust or even stain.
Thank you a lot
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In that case, remember that D2/K110 is semi-stainless. Lots of people carry it without issue.

I can carry it with minimal maintenance three seasons out of the year. (I clean the blade if it looks like it needs it. I wipe the blade down with the regular non-toxic mineral oil you can get at your local pharmacy and it offers decent protection.) For me, the main issue is that when it is 90F and 90% humidity or worse in the summer, I sweat a lot. Things can stay damp in my pockets and my sweat readily spots D2, especially if the oil has been wiped away by cutting cardboard, etc. So at this point, I just don't carry D2 (or K110) in that kind of weather. Obviously, everyone has different circumstances.

Salt and acid seem to be the main offenders. For instance, Dergyll Dergyll mentioned fruit and meat. Really, most steels should be cleaned after cutting food.
 
Skogsnatt said:
I just don't want it go rust or even stain.
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Petrified Fish K110 (Bohler) steel or Petrified Fish D2 (PRC made) steel is.... well.... D2 steel. It's not stainless but it won't rust as ordinary carbon steel. Just do as you would do with US made D2 steel or any other D2 steel.
I have PF838 (black and green, chinese D2), PF949 (green G10, Bohler K110 steel) and PF719 (red, Sandvik 12c27). Build quality is top. The steel also performs as expected from this type of steel.
At work I use a lot D2 steel for 30 years now for all sorts of tooling and it won't rust just like that.
Still, it depends what you expect from it or what you want to do with your Warrior.
 
Thank you TheOne!
Guys, I'm not a total rookie, I know something, I've had more than 10 knives. Moreover, I'm not a collectioner, I use all I have.
So I just need to know exactly about PF and their K110 regarding rust and all that jazz.
If you have such experience
 
I love my PF Beluga. Very well designed front flipper model by a russian blogger. Simple but comfy handle IMO.
Not extremely large but not small in any account, good blade length, very nice, "slicy" full flat grind blade.
They are not clear whether the black is DLC of some sort or Ceracote, but it holds just fine
I have absolutely no issue with the D2/K110\, call it anyway you want.
I actually like it for what I'm doing with my D2 knives (Rat1) and never had issue maintaining the edge or blade being clean and free of rust.
Holds working sharpness just fine if you cut boxes, zip-ties and such things, in normal volumes, on daily bases.
Well made model for what used to worth - around $50-$60. It actually comes with lots of spare stuff in the original box and OEM deep carry painted clips.
Good luck with your choice !

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Hey, sorry totally blanked out on this thread after I got home. Raining here so took a few min to clean out teh drawer. Forgot the name of this one but it says K110 on it. I put 1 drop of oil on it and lubricated it thoroughly with fingers (heh). It had a very slight discoloration from storage but otherwise fine. Needed a quick touch up on the ceramic though.
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I also have one in 14C28N...will post once I find it. If you're worried about staining, that steel is pretty good at not.

Edit: this guy. I prefer 14C28N over D2, I think a more well-rounded steel.
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Good luck
 
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I bought this 818 about a year ago, and it has impressed the hell out of me ever since. This one's in D2, not K110, however their performance should be pretty dang close. I made this knife my official beater, garden chore, yard work, working on car & bike, just all together folder that I use and maybe abuse the most. The D2, and it's heat treat, has really impressed me ever since. I don't know exactly how hard it is, or their heat treatment process, but whatever they're doing, they seem to have it down really well. It holds a very good edge, I haven't had any issues with chipping, it very quickly comes back to hair poppin sharp with a few swipes on my Sharpmaker rods, it reacts well to stropping, and I haven't had a single spot of patina or rust through everything I've used it for. I've never disassembled it, or wiped the blade down with oil either and the acion has never become hard and nasty to cycle like happens on most of my knives now and again. That last part is probably just luck, but something to not anyway. All together a damn good knife.
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I have a Twigshark and a Grow, and I’m extremely impressed with both of them. They feel a whole lot more premium than their price would suggest. They’re just really nicely designed and put together. I have a Bunta on my list that I’ll grab one of these days too, just because why not.

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LimpCroissant said:
I bought this 818 about a year ago, and it has impressed the hell out of me ever since. This one's in D2, not K110, however their performance should be pretty dang close. I made this knife my official beater, garden chore, yard work, working on car & bike, just all together folder that I use and maybe abuse the most. The D2, and it's heat treat, has really impressed me ever since. I don't know exactly how hard it is, or their heat treatment process, but whatever they're doing, they seem to have it down really well. It holds a very good edge, I haven't had any issues with chipping, it very quickly comes back to hair poppin sharp with a few swipes on my Sharpmaker rods, it reacts well to stropping, and I haven't had a single spot of patina or rust through everything I've used it for. I've never disassembled it, or wiped the blade down with oil either and the acion has never become hard and nasty to cycle like happens on most of my knives now and again. That last part is probably just luck, but something to not anyway. All together a damn good knife.
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I love this knife. The geometry of the grind and that stone-wash are straight-up beautiful.

I sent my PF818 to one of the better cut-testers. It was among the best for Chinese D2, as sharpened at 15dps through 1200grit on a KME, versus a standard cardboard. That was the testing standard because a standard arena had to be chosen for comparing various steels. Tests are obviously limited to their conditions but those are good results. In agreement with T TheOne45 's comment, I prefer not to run D2 out that fine.

I had mine punched for hardness too but I forget the result. I think it was around 60HRC.
 
Chronovore said:
I love this knife. The geometry of the grind and that stone-wash are straight-up beautiful.

I sent my PF818 to one of the better cut-testers. It was among the best for Chinese D2, as sharpened at 15dps through 1200grit on a KME, versus a standard cardboard. That was the testing standard because a standard arena had to be chosen for comparing various steels. Tests are obviously limited to their conditions but those are good results. In agreement with T TheOne45 's comment, I prefer not to run D2 out that fine.

I had mine punched for hardness too but I forget the result. I think it was around 60HRC.
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You must be talking about Outpost 76 then. Yeah he seems like a really good dude, I used to listen to their podcast a lot and he was always very rational and honest in his critiques. He can sharpen better than probably just about anyone on that KME too 👍. That's good to hear that it tested one of the best for Chinese D2, yea I really wasn't expecting it to hold an edge as good as it has. Dang, I wish you remembered exactly what it punched at, 60 HRC is very nice though.

Yea man, the geometry is pretty crazy on the 818's. Definitely not something that you see every day. Yet another surprise in such an inexpensive knife. I might have to get another one of their models one of these days, they got some pretty cool designs. Oh.. And the milled G10 backspacer on the 818 is something that I hardly ever see in knives I buy unless they're over like 200-250, it's crazy!

Edit: Hey Chrono, I just checked out his youtube channel and it looks like he hasn't put anything up on there for the past 8 months or so. Any idea if he's still doing his cut tests or if he's putting information somewhere else now?
 
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LimpCroissant said:
You must be talking about Outpost 76 then. Yeah he seems like a really good dude, I used to listen to their podcast a lot and he was always very rational and honest in his critiques. He can sharpen better than probably just about anyone on that KME too 👍. That's good to hear that it tested one of the best for Chinese D2, yea I really wasn't expecting it to hold an edge as good as it has. Dang, I wish you remembered exactly what it punched at, 60 HRC is very nice though.

Yea man, the geometry is pretty crazy on the 818's. Definitely not something that you see every day. Yet another surprise in such an inexpensive knife. I might have to get another one of their models one of these days, they got some pretty cool designs. Oh.. And the milled G10 backspacer on the 818 is something that I hardly ever see in knives I buy unless they're over like 200-250, it's crazy!

Edit: Hey Chrono, I just checked out his youtube channel and it looks like he hasn't put anything up on there for the past 8 months or so. Any idea if he's still doing his cut tests or if he's putting information somewhere else now?
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Yes! He and I used to communicate on a semi-regular basis but he seems to be taking a break. I know he had a lot going on in life.

The PF818 is my favorite design from David Chen. He does a lot of different stuff, some awesome and some funky. The larger knife I posted above (Post 45) is another of his better designs. The thicker stock makes it less slicey than the 818 but the 838 is a fun knife.
 
Chronovore said:
Yes! He and I used to communicate on a semi-regular basis but he seems to be taking a break. I know he had a lot going on in life.

The PF818 is my favorite design from David Chen. He does a lot of different stuff, some awesome and some funky. The larger knife I posted above (Post 45) is another of his better designs. The thicker stock makes it less slicey than the 818 but the 838 is a fun knife.
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Well, hopefully things will smooth out for him through whatever he has going on. He's been a very valuable resource to the knife community. Not too many people have put that much work into testing knives and seeing which ones perform the best edge retention wise, and also getting blades Rockwell tested.

Oh yea the 838 is one that I've had in the back of my mind for a long time too. After I bought my 818 I kind of wished that I would have got the 838 instead, however the 818 has proven to be a rock solid knife. But the 838: $32 and it has a super smooth, seamless g10 inlay of a different color within the g10 scale?? Who does that crap, and how do they do it so cheap 😂
 
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